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From: Carlos Silva <r3pek@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:24:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1116192276.5210.3.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200505151718.06501.vapier@gentoo.org>

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On Sun, 2005-05-15 at 17:18 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> one advantage that other binary based package managers have over Gentoo is 
> ease of recovery from broken core packages ... break your gcc ?  no problem !  
> simply do `apt-get install gcc` or `rpm -i gcc` or whatever
> 
> my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a 
> better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... 
> then next time you break a core system package which cannot be recovered by 
> simply running `emerge` a few times, you run `erescue <broken package>`
> 
> for example, when i broke binutils in unstable with a gcc4 patch, i noticed 
> that it's hard for users to *easily* recover from this ... we developers end 
> up scrambling to build a bunch of binary packages for a variety of compatible 
> compiler/libc combinations so the user can just wget the file and run `emerge 
> binutils.tbz2` and be on their way
> 
> the packages that would be eligible for an 'erescue' package would be just 
> about everything when you do `USE=-* emerge system -ep` ... i'm sure we can 
> trim many of those out though :)  maybe even create a new USE flag for some 
> of these core packages so that we can trim out more files
> 
> the idea would be to create very bare min packages so that the user can simply 
> 'rescue' themselves ... after that, they it's up to them to re-emerge the 
> package to apply all their fun ricer-optimizations as they see fit
> 
> i dont think it'd be too hard to integrate this 'rescue set' into a catalyst 
> target so that it'll become part of our normal release schedule of stage 
> tarballs
> -mike

I like the ideia :)

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-05-15 21:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-05-15 21:18 [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue) Mike Frysinger
2005-05-15 21:19 ` Tom Wesley
2005-05-15 21:21 ` Henrik Brix Andersen
2005-05-15 21:24 ` Carlos Silva [this message]
2005-05-16 13:44   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-05-15 21:29 ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2005-05-15 22:32   ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-05-15 22:45     ` Krzysiek Pawlik
2005-05-15 22:48     ` Ryan
2005-05-15 23:29       ` Sami Samhuri
2005-05-15 23:41     ` david stanek
2005-05-16  0:22       ` Mike Frysinger
2005-05-16  1:12       ` John Myers
2005-05-16  1:56         ` David Stanek
2005-05-16  2:24           ` David Stanek
2005-05-16 10:24           ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-05-16 11:20             ` Jan Kundrát
2005-05-16 13:38               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-05-16 13:48                 ` Jan Kundrát
2005-05-16 11:33             ` [gentoo-dev] " Thomas de Grenier de Latour
2005-05-16 13:48               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2005-05-15 21:31 ` [gentoo-dev] " Olivier Crête
2005-05-16 13:57   ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-05-16 22:11     ` Pete Ezzo
2005-05-17  0:48     ` Olivier Crête
2005-05-17 16:51       ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-05-17 17:33         ` Donnie Berkholz
2005-05-17 17:51           ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-05-24 21:11             ` [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue) ro-overlays Jim Northrup
2005-05-24 21:48               ` Mike Frysinger
2005-05-24 22:34                 ` Jim Northrup
2005-05-24 22:40                   ` Mike Frysinger
2005-05-24 23:44                     ` Stuart Longland
2005-05-25 13:32               ` Chris Gianelloni
2005-05-25 16:50                 ` James Northrup
2005-05-16  4:07 ` [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue) Sami Samhuri
2005-05-16  4:29   ` David Stanek
2005-05-16  7:09     ` Colin Kingsley
2005-05-16  8:48 ` Chris Bainbridge
2005-05-18  7:07 ` [gentoo-dev] " R Hill

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