From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from evolution.brianandsara.net (doc-65-248-107-48.cn.tx.cebridge.net [65.248.107.48]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j432B3nm019593 for ; Tue, 3 May 2005 02:11:04 GMT Received: from matrix.brianandsara.net ([::ffff:192.168.10.14]) by evolution.brianandsara.net with esmtp; Mon, 02 May 2005 21:11:03 -0500 id 00225176.4276DDB7.000017DE Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new glep draft: Portage as a secondary package manager From: Brian Jackson To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <4276CCC5.1080602@egr.msu.edu> References: <42761B77.4030206@salomon.at> <42767C63.40400@gentoo.org> <4276CCC5.1080602@egr.msu.edu> Organization: Gentoo Linux Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:11:03 -0500 Message-Id: <1115086263.24870.7.camel@matrix.brianandsara.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 X-Archives-Salt: 360fbb7c-260a-465f-b0ea-fbd9efcb5f11 X-Archives-Hash: 029252386ac155251087fd92e4e20aaa On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 20:58 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Brian Jackson wrote: > > Michael Haubenwallner wrote: > > > > > >>Hi ebuild devs, > >> > >>Here's a glep draft now for (a part of) the long-term portage-goal > >>"act as a secondary package manager" ... > >> > >>Comments welcome, > >> haubi > >> > >> > > > > It's fancy, but what about ROOT? You don't like it just because you'd have /usr/local/usr/bin/foo? > > > ROOT doens't work for DEPENDS, only [R,P]DEPENDS which means I can't > install everything for pkg FOO in ROOT="/opt" fex. Mostly useful for > alt arches when /usr is taken by the primary OS and you need portage's > DEPEND packages to go somewhere else. Well, I've got a bug open to have a different variable like ROOT that portage would read config files from. Maybe you could jump on that bandwagon, and see if you can make things work that way. I just don't see the uptake to fix a very large portion of the tree for something that I'd guess most devs think is pointless. That's also the reason the "enterprise" tree hasn't taken off. People working in their free time couldn't give a crap about people thinking Gentoo isn't suitable for enterprise applications. In fact, I'd bet there are even some people that already do or would sabotage such an effort. If you want to use portage, use Gentoo. If you want some package manager for your solaris/x86 box(just an example!), go talk to the people that do openembedded. They are geared toward using it as a secondary package manager on a system. --Iggy -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list