Re: [gentoo-dev] cleaning out 'bc' and 'ed' from system

[Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>]

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On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 02:46 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 050421 Juha Varkki wrote:
> > 050421 Mike Frysinger wrote:
> >> we've had 'bc' and 'ed' around for historical reasons
> >> and because we've never actually tracked what packages invoke them
> > Do you mean /usr/bin/bc or did I miss something?
> > Why on earth are you taking it out?  I use bc quite often actually ..
> 
> surely the idea of 'system' is to provide all those basic tools
> which someone might need when doing sysadmin things without X .
> that's why Lynx is included, to allow seeking WWW help & downloading things.
> Ed is there because it's needed for Sed, which is useful for sysadmin;
> Bc has a similar usefulness.  all at basic console level.

Ehh... lynx isn't in system.

As for Gentoo's definition of "system" it is everything you *require* to
have a functioning Linux system at the shell, not everything you might
*want* to have.  It is supposed to be as minimal as possible, and it is
up to you to build on it to get the system the way you want.

I say dump them from system.  Two less things that I have to have in
every stage3 tarball and on every release CD.

> as they say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it:
> try to understand why it was done that way originally.

It *is* broken if it is wasting space on the release media.

The truth is that we remove them during the creation of the release CD,
since we don't use them.  However, they are still in the stages, and on
x86, where we have 5 stage3 images, that is 5 times the wasted space on
the Universal InstallCD and 10 times the wasted space on the mirrors!

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering - Strategic Lead/QA Manager
Games - Developer
Gentoo Linux

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