From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j3G6AjWh028883 for ; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:10:45 GMT Received: from [12.40.38.248] (helo=[10.3.1.237]) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtpa (Exim 4.43) id 1DMgVh-0002WK-Hh for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2005 06:10:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving the updated apache and associated ebuilds back into package.mask From: Lance Albertson To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200504160656.43452@zippy.emcb.local> References: <200504160656.43452@zippy.emcb.local> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-m9T9YLOqDPXS8PoO26lq" Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2005 01:10:31 -0500 Message-Id: <1113631832.10461.9.camel@mirage.ramereth.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 X-Archives-Salt: b8432d47-434c-4c6a-b818-87c0961b201d X-Archives-Hash: 11d475d9360a3c2563baf4f7f7d9c1ac --=-m9T9YLOqDPXS8PoO26lq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 06:56 +0100, Elfyn McBratney wrote: > As I'm sure many of you will know, the updated apache and associated ebui= lds=20 > (so-called apache refresh) have caused a number of problems since coming = out=20 > of package.mask and going into testing. As a result, we have a number of= =20 > packages that simply do not function with the updated apache ebuilds,=20 > rendering testing (on the apache side of things) broken. Yes, this has gotten very annoying. [snip] > A number of people have suggested putting these updated ebuilds back into= =20 > package.mask, or lessening the impact of the upgrade from current stable=20 > apache to the new ~arch apache. So, I would like to solicit advice from = the=20 > developer community as to how we can rectify this. >=20 > The way I see it, we have three options: > - package.mask (downgrades for those early adopters) > - keep the same layout (/etc/apache2/conf, etc.) and wait until 2.2 is o= ut to > change it > - have the newer apache ebuilds migrate from old-style to new-style conf= ig > (very hard to do, but possible) I say at the very least package.mask it. Testing is supposed to be able to compile and work, not half work and test. There's a reason we have a package.mask, please use it! To me, it makes more sense to push these changes in the next major release of apache (2.1/2.2). 2.0.x should be kept as is since a lot of people are using that now and any change midway through the release would cause a lot of havoc. So far, most of the changes don't seem to be backward compatible with each other. Right now you can't make a module that will work for either variation of the layout without hacking it badly. To me, thats bad especially since the new layout isn't in package.mask. I just fear if we continue to push these changes on the current 2.0.x line will continue to piss off a lot of people. Cheers, --=20 Lance Albertson Gentoo Infrastructure | Operations Manager --- Public GPG key: Key fingerprint: 0423 92F3 544A 1282 5AB1 4D07 416F A15D 27F4 B742 ramereth/irc.freenode.net --=-m9T9YLOqDPXS8PoO26lq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBCYKxXQW+hXSf0t0IRAmywAJ9UakPiGWOHU0MEfI0zvt6NIGUJqQCfTOOd /lURfsTqhFez/xnsWzu/7yU= =vwfX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-m9T9YLOqDPXS8PoO26lq-- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list