From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 547 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2004 11:10:04 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 7 Dec 2004 11:10:04 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CbdEJ-0003GG-Vr for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Dec 2004 11:10:04 +0000 Received: (qmail 4700 invoked by uid 89); 7 Dec 2004 11:10:03 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 6569 invoked from network); 7 Dec 2004 11:10:03 +0000 From: Ivan Yosifov To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 13:12:23 +0200 Message-Id: <1102417943.27228.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at orbitel.bg Subject: [gentoo-dev] Too many mailing lists X-Archives-Salt: 57e4fa8a-9089-4d3d-ab03-4450742228ca X-Archives-Hash: 77fb65ae144fe10f8695cb0258340fc9 Hello Everyone, First of all - this is just an idea, if my impressions are wrong - pardon. It is my impression that gentoo has way too many mailing lists wich by themselves are not very active. For example I am a gentoo-desktop-research subscriber for mounths and have not recived a single message. I further believe that developer issues are always just developer issues. A java-plugin can expose a browser bug. A ppc specific problem my be a bug in the common kernel source. There is little reason for having a dozen separate lists when the issues discussed on these lists are related. As of now for a developer to have a full grasp of what ideas are flying about and what problems bother the users most he has to subscribe to ALL lists which is a lot of subscibe-me mails. Imagine a PPC user with security problem in the java plugin. Where can he discus his problem ? On gentoo-desktop, gentoo-security, gentoo-dev, gentoo-ppc-dev, gentoo-ppc-user, gentoo-java or somewhere else? Having so many lists with so deeply connected topics is confusing and a waste of valuable communication resources. I propose the following. There should be a gentoo-announce list for GLSA,release announces and whatever everyone must be aware of. There should be a gentoo-dev for all development related issues (users having problems go here). And there should be a gentoo-user for users that need guidance (like how do I do this,where is that...). Naturally the traffic on the dev and user list can get high. But no one forces the PPC dev to read the X.org threads so this should not be a problem. Posting to Bugzilla (73642) as an RFE and to dev as an RFC. Ivan Yosifov. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list