From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0D781382C5 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:33:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B390E083B; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:33:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C45C3E0829 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2021 20:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] New project: binhost From: Zac Medico To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= , =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_K=2e_H=c3=bcttel?= , Sam James Cc: binhost@gentoo.org References: <24819743.1r3eYUQgxm@farino> 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Message-ID: <10f112f5-a287-cd57-d207-3be43d5109c8@gentoo.org> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2021 12:33:04 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.12.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="z3IbOh3cE4iIgMgT3maZKkNeCkEEpsnPN" X-Archives-Salt: d139de93-8f4e-4210-bef4-3bc7200b4456 X-Archives-Hash: f1210394f7c3f4e34d0fa6100b155475 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --z3IbOh3cE4iIgMgT3maZKkNeCkEEpsnPN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="jBL5LvXu2kpF6Q5SPQisP3SgrirjOshXQ" --jBL5LvXu2kpF6Q5SPQisP3SgrirjOshXQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2/23/21 12:05 PM, Zac Medico wrote: > On 2/23/21 11:46 AM, Zac Medico wrote: >> On 2/20/21 8:17 PM, Zac Medico wrote: >>> IUSE_RUNTIME will obviously introduce conditionals in binary package >>> dependencies, but we should welcome these conditionals because they w= ill >>> provide useful flexibility. >>> >>> I think IUSE_RUNTIME will be a very nice feature to have for project >>> binhost, since it will allow binary package dependencies to behave wi= th >>> flexibility that more closely resembles the flexibility of ebuild >>> dependencies. >> >> We can borrow paludis's notion of pbins [1] to generate ebuilds which >> install pre-built content, and the generated ebuilds could have USE >> flags that behave similarly to IUSE_RUNTIME in the sense that changes = to >> USE flags will result in different builds of pre-built content being >> installed. A content-hash distfiles layout [2] could serve as a >> convenient way to store separate builds of pre-built content for >> multiple combinations of USE flags, and a generated ebuild would index= >> the build by USE flag combination. >> >> Also, for the generated ebuilds, we can generate USE flags to include >> separate SRC_URI downloads for pre-built content to support things lik= e >> FEATURES=3Dsplit-debug and FEATURES=3Dinstall-sources. >=20 > Note that all of this can use existing EAPI features, since everything = new > would be implemented in an ebuild generator that generates a single > ebuild to index pre-built content from multiple binary package builds. >=20 >> [1] https://paludis.exherbo.org/overview/pbins.html >> [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/756778 >=20 For generated ebuilds, we'll have a choice to model things as USE flags or sub-packages. For example, content from FEATURES=3Dsplit-debug and FEATURES=3Dinstall-sources content might make more sense to model as sub-packages than USE flags. It makes more sense to generate a sub-package when there is a need for the sub-package to have USE flags. For example, a split-debug sub-package can have USE flags which index pre-built content from builds for multiple USE flag combinations. Similar USE flags could be useful for an install-sources sub-package if the source code has patches which are conditional on USE flags. --=20 Thanks, Zac --jBL5LvXu2kpF6Q5SPQisP3SgrirjOshXQ-- --z3IbOh3cE4iIgMgT3maZKkNeCkEEpsnPN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQKTBAEBCgB9FiEE8OgXaltWzqgSupCu0HX7jBBKPSAFAmA1ZoFfFIAAAAAALgAo aXNzdWVyLWZwckBub3RhdGlvbnMub3BlbnBncC5maWZ0aGhvcnNlbWFuLm5ldEYw RTgxNzZBNUI1NkNFQTgxMkJBOTBBRUQwNzVGQjhDMTA0QTNEMjAACgkQ0HX7jBBK PSDEKRAAr6Kiv3DWfpgfEuqUpprqT/bjERKYDXV8boVPLFZLWUY+qqs5km1hUxSa ioYvl8HYkd4Lq8PAMixm0VNuROC76ROQS4pB2bne7mrZ9lAxhbPuiHbsv0gdkr1l icYnqW4mS0RW4TdcQFIJRPqy46vOaWrDZ6N6esk/ucWJl1+t/dwe9Q/LW+sIsuNf UUw9YtGWK4W7Be0kO6LmCVw70HrzvjFW1WXba04w+U960FDwyevPdu/MmneVC+JS 9nd295JofeDqoi5rpmWjYuK5BRH+VMFIWTRSmdajQgACQPrgWRNZHAQwt1sgHdvW 7FWN2fxzA32G2vrqyGLdkdZT6B70zORz5P5atmL0BsIjOWwZ50I5Um4fmHMp0diR K3hbwreU/qbrFY9G1D2tVG6dW4jm8y4KmIBD8IPxuThvjSfoKjNs19sVscyAt782 XuAsfFrIFDir2fGcxW1Kn7N0Ld7jedjXl/ZPYWQOguBHicmjnaK3eEfbx9G668/U g7bmLgJ6c23lNbJy1YKoiDZs7SZ+aj3/LQSbgK+8DPgTHXDHF9GK/3m2aht6VRZY ooi2CGVHwRNkPpIakulVJMEI/xBJS2mb1p/TmvEa5MJ5wP6OgSU+wunfEP3uW1U5 bDAmb/hqYuDTc7pKbRMY8ZbqqcaguYSX7QpY/rsReUQxrk+RJJ4= =Qrjy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --z3IbOh3cE4iIgMgT3maZKkNeCkEEpsnPN--