From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 4449 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2004 13:58:38 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 26 Aug 2004 13:58:38 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1C0Kly-0004ic-4g for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Aug 2004 13:58:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 19961 invoked by uid 89); 26 Aug 2004 13:58:37 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 10267 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2004 13:58:36 +0000 From: Chris Gianelloni Reply-To: wolf31o2@gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev In-Reply-To: <20040825234936.GA28128@kroah.com> References: <412CD487.5040705@gentoo.org> <20040825182258.GC30125@kroah.com> <20040825194020.GA9706@kroah.com> <20040825210013.513f0664@snowdrop.home> <20040825201312.GD9706@kroah.com> <1093473709.31835.87.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> <20040825234936.GA28128@kroah.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-lt93SV6UqAkMW1Hl2pic" Organization: Gentoo Linux Message-Id: <1093529051.2651.17.camel@cgianelloni.nuvox.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2004 10:04:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] devleopment sources are no longer 'development' - example X-Archives-Salt: 65129574-7599-4b01-aa1e-60821772c4b7 X-Archives-Hash: 669d9faa4b0a51b51114b5980fa8eebc --=-lt93SV6UqAkMW1Hl2pic Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 19:49, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 06:41:49PM -0400, Chris Gianelloni wrote: > > On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 16:13, Greg KH wrote: > > > But then what is preventing us from having both a 2.4 and 2.6 version= of > > > gentoo-sources? Is it the following statement in that same file: > >=20 > > Nothing... which was why we had the vote at the manager's meeting.=20 >=20 > Great, I didn't realize that was the outcome. >=20 > > While I have planned out a fairly extensive timeline, if the kernel > > developers decided they wished to merge the two, I would think that is > > their prerogative. >=20 > Well, I'll gladly do it tomorrow if I'm allowed to :) >=20 > But what was your timeline? The timeline that we had laid out and that was agreed upon was to make the change around February, which gives 6 months to "prove" that both gentoo-dev-sources and udev are capable of becoming the defaults for the virtual/linux-sources and virtual/dev-manager. The idea is for us to start using them both much heavier. The 2004.3 release will only have one kernel on the CD (gentoo-dev-sources) and will use udev, so it will definitely help us iron out any bugs which are still around. I would think the only thing really slowing adoption is the non-sysfs aware drivers out there, which need either patches, or to be fixed upstream. > > Kernels are already SLOTted based on their version, so I don't think it > > would cause a problem. All we would have to do is be sure to document > > that if a user wants to stick with a 2.4 gentoo-sources, that they > > should p.mask >=3Dsys-kernel/gentoo-sources-2.5* >=20 > If that's it, that's not so bad. But where do we document such a > change? The handbook would definitely be a good place to start. I also think it wouldn't be a bad idea to put a sticky on the forums and an article on the front page, when such a change occurs. The idea would be to put the information in as many places as possible, so our users would be able to find it easily. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Operations/QA Manager Games - Developer Gentoo Linux Is your power animal a penguin? --=-lt93SV6UqAkMW1Hl2pic Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBBLe3akT4lNIS36YERAt8nAJ9f8E2HRDG/5vAuXcploozTFpgENwCfTHmg CZVlyZuOqUfowL89ZULwzEs= =m1sK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-lt93SV6UqAkMW1Hl2pic--