From: Andrew Cowie <andrew@operationaldynamics.com>
To: stuart@gentoo.org
Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Revisiting GLEP 19
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:22:42 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1090556562.24455.28.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200407211608.13130.stuart@gentoo.org>
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On Wed, 2004-07-21 at 16:08 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote:
> Think of it this way. Good change information, like good QA, is something
> that is part of the professional behaviour reasonably expected of a software
> engineer.
Someone else alluded to this, and I'd just like to reinforce the point:
in terms of assessing the risk of a potential upgrade, some sense of
what has changed is necessary.
Unfortunately, the typical ChangeLog in portage is:
18 Feb 2004; David Holm <dholm@gentoo.org> db-4.2.52_p1.ebuild:
Added to ~ppc.
and
*evolution-1.4.6 (22 Mar 2004)
22 Mar 2004; Alastair Tse <liquidx@gentoo.org> evolution-1.4.6.ebuild:
version bump
the trouble is especially evident in the second example. What are the
changes between evo 1.4.5 and evo 1.4.6?
That, of course, is answered by the contents of the upstream ChangeLog,
which there usually is one. In this case it is:
http://developer.ximian.com/projects/evolution/release_notes/1.4.6.html
Which is actually what I, in an enterprise deployment manager role, need
to know about before I can make an upgrade decision. The stuff about
arches being marked stable, etc, is, while internally important, not
terribly interesting compared to this.
It would be fantastic if we can find a way to include such information.
After all, the developer doing the version bump (or better yet, the user
making the bug report) probably at least had a look at the changes list,
where ever it is to be found. That information should at least be
hyperlinked, and, far better - (especially if we're switching to an XML
format) included in Gentoo's ChangeLogs.
Cheers,
AfC
--
Andrew Frederick Cowie
OPERATIONAL DYNAMICS
Operations Consultants and Infrastructure Engineers
http://www.operationaldynamics.com/
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Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-07-20 13:14 [gentoo-dev] Revisiting GLEP 19 Kurt Lieber
2004-07-20 19:36 ` RNuno
2004-07-20 20:43 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20 21:03 ` Tom Payne
2004-07-20 21:18 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-20 21:36 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20 21:14 ` Olivier Crete
2004-07-20 21:41 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-20 22:06 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-20 22:50 ` Kurt Lieber
2004-07-21 14:53 ` Toby Dickenson
2004-07-20 22:58 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-21 20:00 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 21:12 ` Olivier Crete
2004-07-21 21:39 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 21:57 ` Michael Marineau
2004-07-22 12:24 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 0:27 ` Michael Marineau
2004-07-21 0:54 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-21 1:07 ` Michael Marineau
2004-07-21 1:43 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-22 18:28 ` Martin Schlemmer
2004-07-21 16:13 ` Marius Mauch
2004-07-21 17:25 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-21 20:12 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 1:55 ` Barry Shaw
2004-07-21 3:10 ` Michael Marineau
2004-07-21 6:50 ` Daniel Ostrow
2004-07-21 20:25 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 20:21 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-22 9:00 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2004-07-22 12:57 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 12:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stuart Herbert
2004-07-21 12:56 ` Daniel Ostrow
2004-07-21 12:58 ` Toby Dickenson
2004-07-21 13:15 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-21 13:43 ` Jason Wever
2004-07-21 14:47 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-07-21 15:08 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-21 15:45 ` Georgi Georgiev
2004-07-21 15:57 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2004-07-21 17:15 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-07-23 4:22 ` Andrew Cowie [this message]
2004-07-21 20:51 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-22 10:34 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-07-22 13:06 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-23 14:18 ` Carsten Lohrke
2004-07-23 14:45 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 15:25 ` aeriksson
2004-07-21 15:36 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-21 16:34 ` aeriksson
2004-07-21 19:32 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-21 22:55 ` Marius Mauch
2004-07-22 0:08 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-22 0:24 ` Marius Mauch
2004-07-22 0:29 ` Donnie Berkholz
2004-07-22 12:31 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-22 12:27 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-21 15:38 ` Lina Pezzella
2004-07-21 16:26 ` Dylan Carlson
2004-07-21 17:59 ` FRLinux
2004-07-21 16:39 ` Christian Birchinger
2004-07-21 20:42 ` Chris Gianelloni
2004-07-22 8:58 ` Stuart Herbert
2004-07-21 14:33 ` Lars Weiler
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