From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10636 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2004 18:23:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Jul 2004 18:23:15 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BjMVE-00083u-At for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 10 Jul 2004 18:23:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 24590 invoked by uid 89); 10 Jul 2004 18:23:11 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 15965 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2004 18:23:11 +0000 From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20040710011614.1a86df1d.spider@gentoo.org> References: <1089375713.8755.5.camel@antares.hausnetz> <1089380082.32612.3.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> <1089384178.11036.43.camel@localhost> <20040709153740.GA7982@orange-pc.ces.clemson.edu> <1089389500.11041.64.camel@localhost> <1089393350.32612.63.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> <1089397680.11041.121.camel@localhost> <40EEF952.8030405@skylineaero.com> <20040710011614.1a86df1d.spider@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1089483795.6399.42.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 14:23:15 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] x86 2004.2 Profile X-Archives-Salt: 963b6901-6d16-4fc2-9a14-606e50564d8d X-Archives-Hash: 6b4fa401dfe716034e1fcda1bebfcc9f On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 19:16, Spider wrote: > begin quote > On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 15:00:18 -0500 > Andrew Gaffney wrote: > > > I don't understand why the switch from xfree to xorg-x11 is a big > > deal. They are currently source and binary compatible. Almost > > everything (if not everything) works the same with xorg-x11 as it did > > with xfree. > > > > Except that if you do something like this : > emerge sync; emerge -u world > cp -a /etc/X11/XF86Config /etc/ssh /etc/pass* /etc/grou* /etc/shad* > /etc/conf.d /etc/pcmcia /etc/rc.conf /var/lib/portage/world /backup > > reformat, unpack the -same- stage3, and then restore them... > > oops. suddenly things don't work because even when they are binary > compatible, they aren't config compatible, and users should be able to > expect that if they install the same applications (face it, the world > file isn't likely to contain the xfree version, most likely it contains > mozilla, Gnome, KDE, xfce or other such thing that brought X in as a > dependency ) They will get them. We currently break reliability often, > which is a pretty bad thing. :-/ > > only by actually doing things like this new profile, can we in fact > increase reliability. So what is the consensus? I am either going to make the new profile or make xorg-x11 the default in the current profile as soon as spyderous marks it stable, so we can start building the stages for 2004.2. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer Gentoo Linux Is your power animal a pengiun? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list