From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17467 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 18:23:15 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 18:23:15 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1Bj01g-0007ds-AN for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 18:23:12 +0000 Received: (qmail 6023 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jul 2004 18:23:11 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 23537 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 18:23:11 +0000 From: Chris Gianelloni Reply-To: wolf31o2@gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1089393350.32612.63.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> References: <1089375713.8755.5.camel@antares.hausnetz> <1089380082.32612.3.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> <1089384178.11036.43.camel@localhost> <20040709153740.GA7982@orange-pc.ces.clemson.edu> <1089389500.11041.64.camel@localhost> <1089393350.32612.63.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-vJm3rcywFa5q2ecFIF4g" Organization: Gentoo Linux Message-Id: <1089397680.11041.121.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 14:28:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] x86 2004.2 Profile X-Archives-Salt: 36f04dc7-9cb8-429c-adc5-24fb0de76014 X-Archives-Hash: e61301e78ee0e8f92a5114268401015f --=-vJm3rcywFa5q2ecFIF4g Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 13:15, John Davis wrote: > But at this point in time, Gentoo is *not* an Enterprise system. > Packages have zero consistency between releases (even between weeks). > Creating a whole new profile and then going through the hoops > (documentation and user support) to get them all to switch over to the > new profile far outweighs the benefit .. especially for (basically) one > package! ...and it will never be an enterprise-grade system if we always use the excuse that it isn't one already to keep us from doing something that leads in that direction. I'm not talking about moving, removing, nor deprecating the 2004.0 profile, simply creating a new one for use with GRP and the new release out of the box. > The problem of consistency is far beyond the xfree/ xorg switch. Why put > all of the effort into one package when we don't have more important > things, like our toolchain, stabilized between releases? When was the last time someone suggest switching from gcc to icc as our default compiler mid-release? That's right... never. You're comparing apples to oranges. I'm not talking about the stabilization/change of a package *version* but rather of the change in what many consider an essential function from one package to another.=20 While it may seem like a small thing to you, when I install from a 2004.1 CD, I know that I'll end up with xfree when I go to install X.=20 *THIS SHOULD NOT CHANGE* We are all well aware that the *version* of xfree (or any other package, for that matter) may change during the time since release, but the actual packages themselves should be the same. The only exception to this would be in the case of the original package being completely removed from the tree. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer Gentoo Linux Is your power animal a penguin? --=-vJm3rcywFa5q2ecFIF4g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBA7uOwkT4lNIS36YERArlWAJ4ydAjMeM5KfoYVBlr/wqUa1WKKiQCfVmHA SRzy4Qd7e8MFTSCR2IgX9PY= =Itui -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-vJm3rcywFa5q2ecFIF4g--