From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21551 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 16:25:26 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by lists.gentoo.org with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 9 Jul 2004 16:25:26 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BiyBi-0000pk-6J for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 09 Jul 2004 16:25:26 +0000 Received: (qmail 27041 invoked by uid 89); 9 Jul 2004 16:25:03 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 8063 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2004 16:25:02 +0000 From: Chris Gianelloni Reply-To: wolf31o2@gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200407091106.23915.tradergt@smelser.org> References: <200407091106.23915.tradergt@smelser.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-qoy7JgNYf5OOryd4KPsr" Organization: Gentoo Linux Message-Id: <1089390497.11041.76.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 12:28:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDE 3.2.3 X-Archives-Salt: eb9c990c-94f4-4ac9-b03b-5d0aec56dc85 X-Archives-Hash: 939e2c6d67b72b8dd62732befaa7cea3 --=-qoy7JgNYf5OOryd4KPsr Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2004-07-09 at 12:06, Jeff Smelser wrote: > Its becoming increasingly common place these days for program to sit in ~= x86=20 > for a long time. I am curious why this is? Kde 3.2.3 is still in testing.= =20 > Whats taking so long? June 24 is a long time to test a production ready=20 > application, as kde feels it is. We do not rely on the upstream author's indications on whether a package is stable in our tree or not. There are many reasons for this, including the fact that we allow for easily changing of CFLAGS and other compilation options that can affect an installation. If you find something to be quite stable, then let us know. > There are other packages I have found I am having to force upgrading myse= lf on=20 > these days just to get. mysql is still on 4.018, they are on 20 now. Is it 100% necessary to stay on the latest package? Was there a security vulnerability fixed by the new version? If not, upgrading simply because there is a newer version isn't always our top priority.=20 Often times, we are simply too busy to write a new ebuild, test the new ebuild, and commit it for every version. In many cases we are understaffed, even with our enormous developer base. > Whats going on over there? You have to remember that many of us are volunteers and are unable to spend a large amount of time on Gentoo. We have jobs, families, and other commitments than Gentoo. With Gentoo, it really does hold true that if you want something done, you should do it yourself. Create ebuilds. Post them to bugs.gentoo.org. If you think a package has been in testing too long, report not only on your failures, but also on your successes. Many times packages will be delayed simply because there hasn't been enough testing done, or the package simply gets forgotten about for a while.=20 We are a community-based distribution. For things to get done quickly, we *require* the help of the community. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering QA Manager/Games Developer Gentoo Linux Is your power animal a penguin? --=-qoy7JgNYf5OOryd4KPsr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBA7sehkT4lNIS36YERAgheAJ9qa2ee6KUfg2ukBzA3kKE49ub/LgCfbDG5 9nAIK5uXhchvR/8yqrcerjE= =sqfc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-qoy7JgNYf5OOryd4KPsr--