On Wed, 2004-05-19 at 14:01 -0400, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:56:35PM -0400, Allen Dale Parker wrote:
> > definition, so be it. *BUT* when the gimp ebuilds haven't been touched
> > in almost a month (2.0.1 has been out since 04-17 and STILL isn't in
> > portage), other ebuilds are falling out of date, I'm SURE that we can
> > find more useful things to do than adding more USE flags.
> > 
> 
> Frankly the reason GIMP gets out of date, among other gnome herd 
> packages, is that the GNOME herd seems to want to retain maintainership 
> of a lot of packages totally irrelevant to GNOME proper without having 
> enough manpower to deal with it.

A totally irrelevant point in this thread, but I suppose one has to
grasp that one minute of attention and use it to its full extent.

The gimp has been over time (even in the 1.3 series) maintained
perfectly fine. Due to some seriously uncontrolled developer
unavailability it has suffered a bit lately. Gnome held on to Gimp
maintainership for mainly two reasons. First Gimp is _the_ gtk+ example
application and second because frankly the changes made over time by
non-gnome team members have all been regressions or failures to
understand it's underlying structure. We do hand over packages to other
teams (gladly mostly), but we do want it to be maintained at least as
well as it was done before (in quality). Previous experiences have made
us wary of that and then we get to clean up the mess and we double our
workload unlike when we would've handled it ourselves in the first
place. Sounds arrogant ? Guess so, but if we're getting frank I'm gonna
be frank as well.

- foser