From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-dev-return-12606-arch-gentoo-dev=gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: (qmail 29219 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 11:29:47 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (156.56.111.197) by parrot.ussg.indiana.edu with SMTP; 19 May 2004 11:29:47 +0000 Received: from parrot.ussg.indiana.edu ([156.56.111.196] helo=parrot.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1BQPGc-0004ns-Et for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 19 May 2004 11:29:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 30453 invoked by uid 89); 19 May 2004 11:29:46 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-dev@gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev-unsubscribe@gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-dev-subscribe@gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-dev.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 31740 invoked from network); 19 May 2004 11:29:45 +0000 From: foser <foser@gentoo.org> To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200405182108.42231.stuart@gentoo.org> References: <200405180034.30388.stuart@gentoo.org> <200405181845.58966.stuart@gentoo.org> <20040518201628.703a7b34@sven.genone.homeip.net> <200405182108.42231.stuart@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-tqynh6n+sk3lRi0Ei1a2" Message-Id: <1084966200.9124.18.camel@rivendell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.5.7 Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 13:30:00 +0200 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-web-user] Hardened PHP now in Gentoo X-Archives-Salt: 59e4b564-d95c-411b-9053-f736ac8aa6ae X-Archives-Hash: d1a90eaad3bd3e747785d6683fbfd339 --=-tqynh6n+sk3lRi0Ei1a2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2004-05-18 at 21:08 +0100, Stuart Herbert wrote: > I'm pro-choice, and do not agree with the idea of aggregating USE flags j= ust=20 > because they sound similar. The second time you mention choice. I guess we know what Gentoo is about by now, the 'choice' argument is too often used just to end criticism. Choice is an illusion, if you there's too much choice it is no use to anyone anymore, because nobody really knows what it is all about. This is already the case with the loads of USE flags/portage options/etc. we have. Gentoo shouldn't be about choice for the sake of it, it should be about simplicity/managability : stuff that works. It's a trade-off. I wasn't too happy with the introducation of local USE flags for just the reasons that are becoming a problem now. Too much flags, everybody adds them at will without good reasons. We used to just say to people who wanted a specific (rare) set-up that they could easily edit the ebuild themselves to their need, but nowadays it seems we have to hold hands all the time and add complexity for nothing. That's good for nobody really. The installation manual used to be like 5 pages, by now it's a book of it's own per arch. I don't think that's a good thing and we should be really, really careful about what we can do to stop this movement. - foser --=-tqynh6n+sk3lRi0Ei1a2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAq0U48WG+0iaGxDMRAoMIAJ0YpxleXApMEaIGciAxuw0fcSX9+gCfWFfC st/7IDxZoQ5nhD8UHcVuclo= =UeD1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-tqynh6n+sk3lRi0Ei1a2--