From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15577 invoked from network); 2 May 2004 19:52:34 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 2 May 2004 19:52:34 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1BKN0s-0002nr-Bq for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 02 May 2004 19:52:34 +0000 Received: (qmail 14582 invoked by uid 50004); 2 May 2004 19:52:28 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 14901 invoked from network); 2 May 2004 19:52:27 +0000 From: Nathaniel McCallum To: Donnie Berkholz , esammer@gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: References: <1083296558.8842.127.camel@woot.uberdavis.com> <4091EC15.9080500@gentoo.org> <20040430072527.GQ13780@mail.lieber.org> <9E8E490A-9AC4-11D8-8275-0003938E7E46@gentoo.org> <1083517271.28139.23.camel@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1083527444.17081.12.camel@aquinas.natemccallum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.5.7 Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 15:50:45 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] 2004.2 Feature Requests X-Archives-Salt: 6109e8e1-f676-4569-8b42-bd5cb85b7555 X-Archives-Hash: 43a1bd8298e473258bc75d8c6490d02f On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 21:34 +0200, Pieter Van den Abeele wrote: > I noted that projects whose requirements indicate they will be (amongst > other architectures) ppc compatible, but are implemented and designed > by people without much ppc expertise and whose lead hasn't proactively > involved people with ppc expertise, at least for testing (assuming > something testable is available), will require a lot of work on my part > when they suddenly become obliged (as in: a feature for all the > architectures releasing), in this case less than 2 weeks before I need > to start building the 2004.2 release. (check releng release roadmap). > > A few remarks: > > - The uml/design looks good, but I can't seem to find any code. I would > like to point out that release features need to be completed (and > tested) before the release is build, which is rather soon, > unfortunately. Code is in cvs under the gentoo/src/installer/ directory. It will be tough to get the installer included in the 2004.2 release as we are trying very hard to structure it so that it will be easily portable to other architectures. > - The ppc livecd differs from the x86 livecd. Can you check your > dependencies against our release doc and let me know in advance what > needs to be added. That way the ppc livecd is ready by the time you > want to include something for testing. All we really need is python and then whatever partitioning utility will be used (preferably pyparted, currently marked only ~x86, but probably works on other arches). > - I think the GLIarchitectureTemplate and GLIInstallProfile subclasses > need to be implemented by the architectures. Can you let me know the > specifics. We have debated this. Esammer has me working on delegation instead. However, I'm beginning to think that it will take much more time to use delegation instead of inheritance. I'd like to eventually move to that model (delegation) as it is generally a better design. > - X needs to be set up semi-automatically on the ppc X-enabled livecds, > Xeasyconf-ng will probably/hopefully change that. There is no X/GTK/KDE based GUI yet, so we don't need that yet. > - Genkernel is a bottleneck, in theory a new genkernel release is > needed for each kernel revision, otherwise the kernel won't be > installable. (My suggestion is to include a livecd .config in the > kernel ebuild, or drop the user to menuconfig/Xconfig otherwise) Agreed. Warpzero and I are writing a GLEP for genkernel. > - Is there an eta for a beta ebuild? Not yet... However, I want to try and get one out soon. I'll talk to esammer about this. However, I don't suspect that alpha builds will have non-x86 support. That will probably be a beta feature. Nathaniel -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list