[gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[Andrew Gaffney]

Someone posted an article[1] about optimizing distcc a few days ago on -user. It talked 
about using unsermake[2] instead of automake to generate Makefiles that let many source 
files be built at once, which allows you to take full advantage of a network full of 
distcc hosts. Did any of the devs take a look at it? It appears to only be available 
through KDE CVS, but that's never stopped any of you before :)

[1] http://www.csh.rit.edu/slashdot/distcc.html
[2] http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=unsermake

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Re: [gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[Troy Dack]

On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 16:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Someone posted an article[1] about optimizing distcc a few days ago on -user. It talked 
> about using unsermake[2] instead of automake to generate Makefiles that let many source 
> files be built at once, which allows you to take full advantage of a network full of 
> distcc hosts. Did any of the devs take a look at it? It appears to only be available 
> through KDE CVS, but that's never stopped any of you before :)
> 
> [1] http://www.csh.rit.edu/slashdot/distcc.html
> [2] http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=unsermake

I did attempt to hack the kde-cvs eclass to use unsermake, it didn't
work too badly, the only problem was that every time you built a kde-cvs
based package the unsermake dir would be re-fetched.

I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to create a standalone unsermake
ebuild, however unsermake was a little unreliable last time I tried it.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[Andrew Gaffney]

Troy Dack wrote:
> On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 16:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> 
>>Someone posted an article[1] about optimizing distcc a few days ago on -user. It talked 
>>about using unsermake[2] instead of automake to generate Makefiles that let many source 
>>files be built at once, which allows you to take full advantage of a network full of 
>>distcc hosts. Did any of the devs take a look at it? It appears to only be available 
>>through KDE CVS, but that's never stopped any of you before :)
>>
>>[1] http://www.csh.rit.edu/slashdot/distcc.html
>>[2] http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=unsermake
> 
> 
> I did attempt to hack the kde-cvs eclass to use unsermake, it didn't
> work too badly, the only problem was that every time you built a kde-cvs
> based package the unsermake dir would be re-fetched.
> 
> I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to create a standalone unsermake
> ebuild, however unsermake was a little unreliable last time I tried it.

It can be used on non-KDE packages, right?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[Markus Nigbur]

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On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:51:38 +1000
Troy Dack <troy@tkdack.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 16:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> > Someone posted an article[1] about optimizing distcc a few days ago
> > on -user. It talked about using unsermake[2] instead of automake to
> > generate Makefiles that let many source files be built at once,
> > which allows you to take full advantage of a network full of distcc
> > hosts. Did any of the devs take a look at it? It appears to only be
> > available through KDE CVS, but that's never stopped any of you
> > before :)

Sounds neat, I'll have a look at it this week.

> > 
> > [1] http://www.csh.rit.edu/slashdot/distcc.html
> > [2] http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=unsermake
> 
> I did attempt to hack the kde-cvs eclass to use unsermake, it didn't
> work too badly, the only problem was that every time you built a
> kde-cvs based package the unsermake dir would be re-fetched.
> 
> I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to create a standalone unsermake
> ebuild, however unsermake was a little unreliable last time I tried
> it.

Define unreliable, please.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[Troy Dack]

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On Sun, 2004-04-04 at 01:02, Markus Nigbur wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2004 16:51:38 +1000
> Troy Dack <troy@tkdack.com> wrote:
>
> > I suppose it wouldn't be too hard to create a standalone unsermake
> > ebuild, however unsermake was a little unreliable last time I tried
> > it.
> 
> Define unreliable, please.

Not every package would build successfully with unsermake, often failing
in different places.  Switching back to a "normal" build process
everything worked.  I don't have any quantitative evidence as to what
did and did not successfully build with unsermake as it was more of a
curiosity for me at the time and I had no intention of pushing it back
into portage.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] using unsermake instead of automake to speed up distcc

[Lisa Seelye]

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On Sat, 2004-04-03 at 01:44, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> Someone posted an article[1] about optimizing distcc a few days ago on -user. It talked 
> about using unsermake[2] instead of automake to generate Makefiles that let many source 
> files be built at once, which allows you to take full advantage of a network full of 
> distcc hosts. Did any of the devs take a look at it? It appears to only be available 
> through KDE CVS, but that's never stopped any of you before :)

Once unsermake is a standalone and comparable to automake (that is, it
must do everything automake does) I don't see any reason not to prefer
it over automake.

However, as it stands now unsermake still doesn't support all of
automake's features.

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