From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10730 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2004 15:34:58 +0000 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (128.193.0.39) by eagle.gentoo.oregonstate.edu with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jan 2004 15:34:58 +0000 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([128.193.0.34] helo=eagle.gentoo.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1Ah9WL-0003Nt-S2 for arch-gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:34:57 +0000 Received: (qmail 12578 invoked by uid 50004); 15 Jan 2004 15:34:57 +0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 20269 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2004 15:34:57 +0000 From: Chris Gianelloni To: steve@stevesworld.hopto.org Cc: "Robin H. Johnson" , Gentoo Developers In-Reply-To: <4006AD4F.90408@stevesworld.hopto.org> References: <4005682C.2070708@stevesworld.hopto.org> <20040115025842.GC16999@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> <4006AD4F.90408@stevesworld.hopto.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-QDVdALSYe47dGfksQ0A+" Message-Id: <1074180808.5866.134.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:33:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Installer For Gentoo X-Archives-Salt: d54922ff-6d48-4958-9c31-00de297eb43e X-Archives-Hash: bc5c8c8449834a5c1f319bafed0e981a --=-QDVdALSYe47dGfksQ0A+ Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 10:10, Stephen Clowater wrote: > The configurations that are detected would only be the defaults, any > user who wanted to change them, or bypass the entire install > alltogether, could still do so. Indeed, you could specify a boot option > like noinstaller and do the install the old way, or flip over to another > vc (the installer would presumably be on vc/1) and continue the install > by the guide instead of the installer. >=20 > Its important to note the last thing that an installer would do would be > to impose itself on the user. Its purpose is to provide some level of > confort and prettyness for those who would like it, and to detect the > most optimal defaults for a system, however, not to take away from the > user the ability to change these defaults. I think a much better way of even thinking about this would be rather than running the installer at all, the user would type "install" or "setup" at a prompt to start it. > hmmm, perhaps having global use flags based on the selected packages, > but have each package have the ability to override those USE flags when > slelected? (default setting would be whatever global USE is) Per-package USE flags is being worked on, but won't be around for a long time. USE should never be determined by installed packages, but rather always by the user. netcat is a much better tool for such a task. I think I can speak for most of us when I say that we feel very strongly about never adding telnet to the default profiles, as it is simply inviting trouble. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Developer, Gentoo Linux Games Team Is your power animal a pengiun? --=-QDVdALSYe47dGfksQ0A+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBABrLIkT4lNIS36YERAimsAKCkDb2bxBKdbRdBqSUTG/eb4qZrLQCfSuw3 P8NJ3eEs73PEX/TaBl4mSeM= =iRxO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-QDVdALSYe47dGfksQ0A+--