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From: Bill Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
To: Jason Mobarak <aether@gentoo.org>
Cc: Gentoo-Dev List <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming?
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:31:54 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1069119114.6811.39.camel@cbbcsc204a.murdoch.edu.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031118011305.GA23900@unm.edu>

The reason for using "g-" was so typing "g-<tab>" will get ALL gentoo
utilities.  Otherwise the advantage of being consistent and hierarchal
is largely lost (you do need a (hopefully) short "top of tree"
identifier for the hierarchy).  You will also need to allow for other
configuration tools such as g-cpan.pl which is a gentoo utility, but is
really  perl module installer similar to emerge.

Another example is the gentoolkit utilities like revdep-rebuild -
there's lots of messages telling people that this tool is available, but
no other way to tell its there if you are in the middle of a disaster
and trying to figure out what to do.

Lastly, when I was using mandrake, they were prefixing all their
utilities with "drak" which made finding the tools *SO* easy.  This is
not about copying what they do, but being smarter about what we do.

BillK

On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 09:13, Jason Mobarak wrote:
> Hi --
> 
> I vote config-* and update-* -- the other names seem a little convoluted if the
> intent is to make a clear and concise tool naming scheme.
> 
> -- Jason A Mobarak (aka Aether on Freenode)
> 
> On 00:26 Tue 18 Nov     , Peter Ruskin wrote:
> > On Tuesday 18 Nov 2003 00:11, Markus Nigbur wrote:
> > > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 07:18:42 +0800
> > >
> > > William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> > > > I dont see a problem with branding in this case (other than
> > > > gentoo-* sounding a bit ... odd!)
> > > >
> > > > how many other tools such as g-cpan.pl exist that few know about:
> > > > is there a consolidated list of these tools and what they do? If
> > > > not, some kind of consistent, hierarchal naming scheme will be a
> > > > godsend!
> > > >
> > > > So I am suggesting
> > > > g-update-etc, g-update-opengl
> > > > g-install-cpan, g-install-cran
> > > > g-config-distcc, g-config-java
> > > > and so on
> > > >
> > > > BillK
> > >
> > > Well, the whole idea is good, but those names are really considerable
> > > stupid-looking :(
> > > But apparently i can't think of anything better.
> > >
> > > -- Markus
> > 
> > I think the first idea was the best: config-*
> > 
> > Peter
> > -- 
> > ======================================================================
> > Portage 2.0.49-r15 (default-x86-1.4, gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2-r3, 
> > 2.4.23_pre8-gss)
> > i686 AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+
> > ======================================================================
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-18  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-16  9:24 [gentoo-dev] *-config tool renaming? Donnie Berkholz
2003-11-16 10:13 ` Robin H. Johnson
2003-11-16 11:00   ` Markus Nigbur
2003-11-17 14:45   ` Luca Barbato
2003-11-17 23:18     ` William Kenworthy
2003-11-17 23:22       ` Ricardo Loureiro
2003-11-18  0:11       ` Markus Nigbur
2003-11-18  0:26         ` Peter Ruskin
2003-11-18  1:13           ` Jason Mobarak
2003-11-18  1:31             ` Bill Kenworthy [this message]
2003-11-18  2:12               ` Andrew Gaffney
2003-11-18 16:10               ` Jason Mobarak
2003-11-18 17:15                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2003-11-18 17:49               ` Karl Trygve Kalleberg
2003-11-19  0:24                 ` William Kenworthy
2003-11-19  3:38                 ` Aron Griffis
2003-11-16 16:08 ` Brian Jackson
2003-11-16 18:04   ` George Shapovalov
2003-11-17  3:11 ` Jason Rhinelander
2003-11-17  4:18   ` donnie berkholz
2003-11-17 14:17     ` Gregorio Guidi
2003-11-17 15:09     ` Markus Nigbur
2003-11-17 15:32       ` Jason Stubbs
2003-11-17 21:17         ` Markus Nigbur
2003-11-17 18:24       ` Donnie Berkholz

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