Re: [gentoo-dev] USE Linux 2.6.x

[Patrick Lauer <gentoo@toso-digitals.de>]

On Wed, 2003-10-22 at 00:25, Spider wrote:
> They are both dependant on the target module, and theres no way in a
> gnomes purple hell you are going to get me into a state where I can
> reboot first, and then rebuild the modules, only to reboot again so I
> have a working boot session.  uh-oh- NO.
Yes, it makes more sense to "precompile" everything beforw a reboot.

> And no, you won't get me to emerge it with SLOT="purple-gnomes-2.4.44" 
> either, Just because I sat down and got my own kerneltree installed into
> usr/src/testkernelwithextraJFSpatches , and then loose my existing ,
> working, tried kernelset.
Even worse:
1) emerge vanilla-sources
2) build kernel
3) emerge -U world a while later

--> Now you're using a kernel that has been compiled from 2.4.19, but
/usr/src/linux either points into the nirvana or to 2.4.22 which you
didn't order, which you do not use at the moment ... 

I'd like to have kernels "sticky" so that they don't get updated unless
told to (and please don't tell me that I should put my kernel into
package.mask, that's not intuitive and leads only to errors)

> When you get this set to -automagically- detect the target kernel.,
> build modules and fix. then ok.
Sometimes a newer kernel won't boot with the same config. I'm still
using 2.4.19 because all the newer kernels ignore at least one pci
device (like the ide controller or network card !?)

> if you want it to depend on the running kernel, erm...  No. theres a few
> things already that do so, and that is -BROKEN- behaviour.  I don't even
> -HAVE- the sources for my running kernel at most times. What?  No I
> don't need them. I shouldn't need to have my sources for the hard
> compiled and working copy of 2.4.18-saviour with extra everything that I
> know boots all my machines and I have in a .tar stored away for working
> order. 
So maybe kernel managment should be user-controllable, i.e. "don't install 
kernels and use -->this one for everything" ?

> Yes, this thread invoked a lot of hot emotions from my side.
/me agrees

Patrick


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