[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..

[Stroller]

On 17 Sep 2003, at 1:24 pm, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:

> brett holcomb [mailto:brettholcomb@charter.net] wrote:
>
>> Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your
>> system will break.
>
> Exactly.  I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and
> making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp
> /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab).

I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if this was changed, were you to file 
it as a bug. I'm cross posting to gentoo-dev to see what they think.

Stroller.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..

[Chris Gianelloni]

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On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 11:02, Stroller wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2003, at 1:24 pm, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:
> 
> > brett holcomb [mailto:brettholcomb@charter.net] wrote:
> >
> >> Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your
> >> system will break.
> >
> > Exactly.  I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and
> > making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp
> > /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab).
> 
> I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if this was changed, were you to file 
> it as a bug. I'm cross posting to gentoo-dev to see what they think.
> 
> Stroller.

I think it is a great idea.

You definitely have my support.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..

[Alexander Gretencord]

On Wednesday 17 September 2003 17:02, Stroller wrote:
> On 17 Sep 2003, at 1:24 pm, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:
> > brett holcomb [mailto:brettholcomb@charter.net] wrote:
> >> Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your
> >> system will break.

No it doesn't break, it just breaks if you foolishly hit "just overwrite all 
files with the new version". 

> > Exactly.  I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and
> > making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp
> > /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab).
> I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if this was changed, were you to file
> it as a bug. I'm cross posting to gentoo-dev to see what they think.

I wouldn't be if it wouldn't. I would really like this to be consistent in 
gentoo. Syslog-ng has a syslog-ng.sample file, postfix has many sample files, 
many other packages don't and you got to use etc-update. Well sometimes I 
really welcome etc-update and config file merging and on other occasions it 
just sucks and is a pain in the ass. Difficult decision I'd say.


Alex


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] "etc-update" versus Manual update opinions..

[John Mylchreest]

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There is work being done on this area quite actively I believe.
one addition is that things will be a lot more intuitive, and automerge
as much as possible. for example if the md5 sum of a file is the same as
the original one installed, it will automerge.

check out dispatch-conf for a little more insight.
I hope this clears some things up

- John

On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 18:09, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 September 2003 17:02, Stroller wrote:
> > On 17 Sep 2003, at 1:24 pm, Gwendolyn van der Linden wrote:
> > > brett holcomb [mailto:brettholcomb@charter.net] wrote:
> > >> Well, if you use etc-update on files like /etc/fstab your
> > >> system will break.
> 
> No it doesn't break, it just breaks if you foolishly hit "just overwrite all 
> files with the new version". 
> 
> > > Exactly.  I would vote for keeping /etc/fstab.example in portage, and
> > > making the copying/editing part of the installation procedure (cp
> > > /etc/fstab.example /etc/fstab; nano -w /etc/fstab).
> > I agree. I wouldn't be surprised if this was changed, were you to file
> > it as a bug. I'm cross posting to gentoo-dev to see what they think.
> 
> I wouldn't be if it wouldn't. I would really like this to be consistent in 
> gentoo. Syslog-ng has a syslog-ng.sample file, postfix has many sample files, 
> many other packages don't and you got to use etc-update. Well sometimes I 
> really welcome etc-update and config file merging and on other occasions it 
> just sucks and is a pain in the ass. Difficult decision I'd say.
> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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