[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-UTF8

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-UTF8

[Greg Aumann]

I am quite interested in converting my gentoo system to UTF-8. I haven't 
gone any further than using a UTF-8 locale yet. I am also writing an 
ebuild for the Openi18n input method framework 
http://www.openi18n.org/subgroups/im/IIIMF/

I am particularly interested in input methods, fonts and getting Chinese 
going under UTF-8.

Greg

> Hello,
>   I'm looking for some advice to make a Gentoo installation thats
> completely UTF-8 compliant.  This is a developer  issue, as I'm also
> looking for what regards will be required from our side to make UTF-8
> the default for applications and userspace tools, as well as how to make
> it work nicely in the console.
> 
> So far I think RedHat is the one distribution thats "ahead" in this
> case, (I haven't had the chance to try SuSe) but they fail too (gtk+-1.2
> for example will make fun things happen when it hits öæøØÆÅÄÖåä )
> 
> So, a roadmap of sorts, perhaps documentation and a list of "broken
> apps" in regards to this would be a nice start, and then providing
> buildfixes and patches to make things work as supposed....
> 
> 
> yep, this goal is pretty big and will be a long time thing that should
> probably be covered by USE="utf8"  or other flag, but in this case I'm
> looking for input from developers and users who have ideas on how to
> make this happen and make it a smooth transition.
> 
> 
> //Spider



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-UTF8

[Lim Swee Tat]

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Hi,
  It will be interesting to see this happen.  Does this happen at the
xfree layer of things or does this happen at the kde level of things??
  I'm interested to help out with this.

Ciao
ST Lim

On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 10:41, Greg Aumann wrote:
> I am quite interested in converting my gentoo system to UTF-8. I haven't 
> gone any further than using a UTF-8 locale yet. I am also writing an 
> ebuild for the Openi18n input method framework 
> http://www.openi18n.org/subgroups/im/IIIMF/
> 
> I am particularly interested in input methods, fonts and getting Chinese 
> going under UTF-8.
> 
> Greg
> 
> > Hello,
> >   I'm looking for some advice to make a Gentoo installation thats
> > completely UTF-8 compliant.  This is a developer  issue, as I'm also
> > looking for what regards will be required from our side to make UTF-8
> > the default for applications and userspace tools, as well as how to make
> > it work nicely in the console.
> > 
> > So far I think RedHat is the one distribution thats "ahead" in this
> > case, (I haven't had the chance to try SuSe) but they fail too (gtk+-1.2
> > for example will make fun things happen when it hits öæøØÆÅÄÖåä )
> > 
> > So, a roadmap of sorts, perhaps documentation and a list of "broken
> > apps" in regards to this would be a nice start, and then providing
> > buildfixes and patches to make things work as supposed....
> > 
> > 
> > yep, this goal is pretty big and will be a long time thing that should
> > probably be covered by USE="utf8"  or other flag, but in this case I'm
> > looking for input from developers and users who have ideas on how to
> > make this happen and make it a smooth transition.
> > 
> > 
> > //Spider
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-UTF8

[Spider]

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On Tue, 09 Sep 2003 22:06:00 +0800
Lim Swee Tat <st_lim@stlim.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>   It will be interesting to see this happen.  Does this happen at the
> xfree layer of things or does this happen at the kde level of things??
>   I'm interested to help out with this.
> 
> Ciao
> ST Lim
> 
> On Tue, 2003-09-09 at 10:41, Greg Aumann wrote:
> > I am quite interested in converting my gentoo system to UTF-8. I
> > haven't gone any further than using a UTF-8 locale yet. I am also
> > writing an
> > 
> > ebuild for the Openi18n input method framework 
> > http://www.openi18n.org/subgroups/im/IIIMF/
> > 
> > I am particularly interested in input methods, fonts and getting
> > Chinese going under UTF-8.
> > 
> > Greg



Replying to you both here :
No, this is something that must happen on all layers. I'm not sure on
how to actually go by it really.  For one thing I guess we'll need a
complete font set, unless we'll just get odd squares in the text; -)  
other things remain to be seen is how terminals work and handle it, as
well as translations and input.


The reason I brought it up here is that I feel a bit out of my league,
but its something that I'd want to learn more about, and poke some more
in, so those here with experience on getting things to work, can you
recommend things please?


//Spider



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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo-UTF8

[Mamoru KOMACHI]

Hi,

At Tue, 09 Sep 2003 10:41:42 +0800,
Greg Aumann wrote:

> I am quite interested in converting my gentoo system to UTF-8. I haven't 
> gone any further than using a UTF-8 locale yet. I am also writing an 
> ebuild for the Openi18n input method framework 
> http://www.openi18n.org/subgroups/im/IIIMF/

Have you submitted a bug for your ebuild?  Because I couldn' find one
in bugs.gentoo.org, I've just filed my version (actually this is a
kind of collaboration at GentooJP) of it at

	http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=28272

> I am particularly interested in input methods, fonts and getting Chinese 
> going under UTF-8.

I'd like to have some comments about im-sdk stuff in general and
Chinese input methods on IIIMF (Japanese input methods via IIIMF work
fine for me).


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