From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14551 invoked by uid 1002); 28 Aug 2003 14:53:30 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 4179 invoked from network); 28 Aug 2003 14:53:29 -0000 From: foser To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200308281604.11809.pauldv@gentoo.org> References: <1062069307.3455.43.camel@rivendell> <200308281604.11809.pauldv@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1062082102.3455.150.camel@rivendell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.4 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 16:48:22 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop X-Archives-Salt: d67b2d73-573c-4871-a7cc-958b3fafc6bc X-Archives-Hash: 6cd28604c39944ec20402ef7722527fe On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 16:04, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 28 August 2003 13:15, foser wrote: > > > > To sum it up : everything non-console. > > No, also console applications like pine and mutt will probably considered > desktop applications. Basically there will be a partition of all ebuilds into > probably (we are not ready with it yet): -desktop, -base, -server and > - -toolkit Those 3 or 4 cursed/console apps vs. all GUI or all non-enduser console apps, big point to bring up. 'Op alle slakken zout leggen' in ye olde dutch. You shouldn't be pushing to define everything on every level, i thought that was what this whole TLP thing was good for. Better to have them just handled by some mail group or irc group, we're getting into the herds realm here. Pine is part of net-mail herd (or something), that is part of TLP Desktop i assume. So in the end we're on the same line. Getting into details again. Who brought this up. > Of these -toolkit is the most vague but it basically includes things like > libxml, various programming languages (not gcc which is part of -base), > tcl/tk and other packages that enduser packages build upon. I know there will > be some tough judgements with certain packages but desktop basically includes > those packages that someone uses when using the computer as > desktop/workstation and has nothing to do with socalled desktop environments > as kde and gnome I don't know if this is all a good idea, this will result in herds maintaining packages for different TLP or in case this isn't allowed in herds not maintaining packages they have always maintained or are the major users of. TLP's concerning ebuild groups (as mentioned above -base, -server, etc) should be defined by control over herds, not over individual packages. - foser -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list