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From: Chris Gianelloni <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
To: Tavis Ormandy <taviso@gentoo.org>
Cc: Stuart Herbert <stuart@gentoo.org>,
	Svyatogor <svyatogor@gentoo.org>,
	gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat
Date: 20 Aug 2003 21:16:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1061428579.29996.88.camel@vertigo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030820233415.GA18365@sdf.lonestar.org>

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On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 19:34, Tavis Ormandy wrote:
> And we're not talking about a few megabytes here, we're talking about a
> few hundred K's, with USE=minimal my vim binary is just 400k.

The difference is a bit more than that when you count all of the
supporting files for vim, but that really is not the point I think we're
trying to get at.  The thing we are looking to solve is "Why do we need
an 80+ MB ISO to do installations from, when a smaller one can (and
should) do fine?"

> And if its that serious an issue, theres always upx :)

Which is an excellent suggestion.  Has anyone looked into this, or would
it not really be of any value due to the usage of cloop?

> > I'm sure there are smaller, vi-compatible editors out there suitable for 
> > putting onto the basic install CD.
> 
> im sure there are, but vi != vim.

Honestly, I would love to see 3 CD "sets" from Gentoo.  

1) An install CD, with *nothing* but the essentials to install.  It
should have maximum driver support and minimal anything else.  I would
think it should only have a stage1 tarball.

2) A "large" Live CD with the common tools and a nice GUI, this would
also be useful as a install CD, since it would have (at least) the
stage1 tarball.

3) The full GRP CD set with all of the pre-compiled packages and all
three stages.

-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Developer, Gentoo Linux

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-21  1:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-18 19:42 [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat Kurt Lieber
2003-08-18 21:17 ` Dhruba Bandopadhyay
2003-08-18 23:03 ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-19  0:06   ` Bob Johnson
2003-08-19  1:33     ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-19  6:47       ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-19  6:54         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-19  6:59           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-19  7:10             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  5:00           ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:16             ` C. Brewer
2003-08-20  1:10         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-20  7:31           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-20 13:09             ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 12:39           ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 13:18             ` Michael Cummings
2003-08-20 13:18               ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-20 14:05             ` Tobias Sager
2003-08-20 15:27               ` Aron Griffis
2003-08-20 15:56                 ` Svyatogor
2003-08-20 15:51                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 16:27                     ` matt c
2003-08-20 17:09                       ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-20 18:36                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 22:51                           ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 16:31                     ` Eric Olinger
2003-08-20 17:05                       ` Matt Rickard
2003-08-21  5:13                       ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  5:42                         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  5:59                           ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:08                             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  6:25                               ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:51                                 ` Ralph F. De Witt
     [not found]                               ` <3F4464DC.1010904@snerk.org>
2003-08-21  6:30                                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 16:58                                   ` [gentoo-dev] OT: Re: Nano. WAS: " Stroller
2003-08-21 17:41                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2003-08-21  9:34                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21  9:54                               ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-21 17:55                                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  9:52                           ` Toby Dickenson
2003-08-20 18:43                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 22:42                   ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 23:34                     ` Tavis Ormandy
2003-08-21  1:16                       ` Chris Gianelloni [this message]
2003-08-21  2:06                         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-21 10:29                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-23 14:43                       ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 15:22             ` Aron Griffis
2003-08-20 12:43           ` Kurt Lieber
2003-08-20 14:09             ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-20 18:40               ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 20:01             ` Daniel Armyr
2003-08-20 23:05               ` William Kenworthy
2003-08-19 11:21   ` Chris Gianelloni

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