From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 30310 invoked by uid 1002); 20 Aug 2003 12:37:03 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 22232 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2003 12:37:02 -0000 From: Chris Gianelloni To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200308200112.09533.luke-jr@gentoo.org> References: <20030818194238.GR1161@mail.lieber.org> <200308190133.21887.luke-jr@gentoo.org> <20030819064706.GB1138@gentoo.org> <200308200112.09533.luke-jr@gentoo.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-DNT/WKOj/qZVKBZ2Kvv9" Message-Id: <1061383163.415.8.camel@vertigo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.3 Date: 20 Aug 2003 08:39:23 -0400 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat X-Archives-Salt: 8d147ace-bf66-4de1-b08f-a6db6869d906 X-Archives-Hash: 7ac7a8fc26cf37b6f823dce9bd79a20f --=-DNT/WKOj/qZVKBZ2Kvv9 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2003-08-19 at 21:10, Luke-Jr wrote: > Graphical browsers are much more preferable to things like lynx (which do= esn't=20 > even handle tables properly, IIRC). Is 4.4 MB really too much for a nice=20 > graphical browser? The docs could probably even get away with saying to u= se=20 > the Setup->Network options menu item if a proxy is needed. I believe it *is* too much. In fact, our "basic" install CD should be as basic as possible. The instructions should be as basic as possible.=20 Why are we using links rather than lynx? Why *is* perl on the install CD? Why do we have vim versus a smaller vim clone? I can understand why many people want extra tools on the Live CD, but a "basic" CD should be exactly that. I just did a 1.4 GRP install yesterday, since I am going to be presenting it at the local LUG next month. One of the things that bothered me was the fact that I have vim before chroot, but not after. Why is vim even on there if it cannot be used the entire time? I see no point in having two tools that do the same job on the CD, especially when only one is useful during the entire process. I would love to see a Live CD that fits on a 64MB pen drive much more than knowing I can use vim. We could always make a "fat" Live CD which has more tools for people who want them. --=20 Chris Gianelloni Developer, Gentoo Linux --=-DNT/WKOj/qZVKBZ2Kvv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQA/Q2v6kT4lNIS36YERAuEbAJ9BK3flXVI3qm0KkoKw5hR/RxK4DgCeLYCX 2o4wcfS/GRzPrUD1RAUQsjw= =Ybcu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-DNT/WKOj/qZVKBZ2Kvv9--