Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-core] proposal: make gentoo-core publicly read-only

[Todd Berman <tberman@gentoo.org>]

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On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 16:49, Alec Berryman wrote:
> Currently, -dev isn't a developer list; most of the e-mail is users'
> suggestions discussed by other users and the occasional dev, as well as
> the occasional mis-post targeted for -user.  Perhaps in the future, if
> -core would be accessible to the community that drive it, -dev could be
> the buffer zone between the final work of the developers and the user
> community.  Right now, there's a feeling that the developers are
> shutting themselves in an ivory tower.  That's not good for community. 
> Gentoo's social contract has always said it will not "hide its
> problems", but has continued to keep its core development decisions
> closed.

Just as a quick point of reference, I have been a gentoo developer for
~3 months or so, maybe a bit less. You want to know how I became a
gentoo developer?

It had nothing to do with finding the keys to the fabled tower, or
making the right friends, and had everything to do with being willing to
give a bit of my time and energy to serve something that is needed in
gentoo. All I did was make a couple small proposals here about some
general stuff, and then offer to maintain the sendmail ebuild. Thats it,
no hocus-pocus, no magic words, no secret rites, not even a special
handshake. (Man, did I feel gypped!)

My point is just this, you want access to -core, become a developer, its
part of the territory.

And I might be going out on a limb here, but I'm pretty sure that many
other non-profit Linux distributions have non-open lists. In fact, I
would be very surprised if any Linux distributions don't.

--Todd

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