From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24342 invoked by uid 1002); 23 Jun 2003 08:03:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 3891 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2003 08:03:10 -0000 From: Philippe =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Lafoucri=E8re?= Reply-To: lafou@wanadoo.fr To: Gentoo-dev In-Reply-To: <20030623070548.GA29975@cerberus.oppresses.us> References: <1056349331.2276.8.camel@biproc> <20030623070548.GA29975@cerberus.oppresses.us> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: InFuzzion Message-Id: <1056355388.2276.20.camel@biproc> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4- Date: 23 Jun 2003 10:03:08 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Weekly News Letter - "Where is Gentoo Linux 1.4" X-Archives-Salt: 20d4e686-d62f-4649-97e4-70de8d20132d X-Archives-Hash: 8501718e392ee67fce2c94b08e3e473b > There are two versions: release versions and profile versions. > > Release versions _only apply to install media_. > Profile versions (such as default-x86-1.4) define the characteristics of > your installed system. I know that. This is not cleary explained on gentoo website. Newbies may be confused about that. > 1.4 isn't out because it's not ready. Frankly, I can cook you up a > half-baked LiveCD and set of stages with absolutely no value over rc4 > right now, if you're that obsessed with having something out there with > '1.4' on it. Instead, we're trying to get you, the user, things like > GRP, an enhanced LiveCD, automatic CFLAGS generation and kernel initrd > creation, and so on. That what I said. What's wrong with rc4 livecd ? Gentoo is experiencing some bad use of RCs. RC is a release Candidate. It means that no more feature would appear between 2 RCs. A new RC is just fixed bugs. Here is some confusion between RC and BETA I think. Since you add some features, Gentoo 1.4 RC4 is in fact GENTOO 1.4 BETA4 (yeah, it sucks). > Futurely we will probably be removing 'rc' from the version number > because it suggests 'beta' to people, which is not the case. We will > probably move to a system like 1.5, 1.5.1, 1.5.2... I hope. User/Newbies would better understand. > I am not sure what you mean by 'project leader' - do you think that > currently there is nobody in charge at all? Perhaps you can elaborate > here. (Daniel Robbins is effectively our 'project leader' - I am the > releases coordinator.) I've never seen a mail of Daniel Robbins here. I saw his name on gentoo.org, and some IBM articles (developper works).Gentoo management is really "opaque". > What kinds of communication are you looking for? When anyone has asked, > I have been happy to tell them what's going on with releases. With > regards to a roadmap, what kind of roadmap? For what in particular? > Portage? Releases? First, for that: """ * Baselayout independent of tmpfs * CFLAGS documentation or a tool that gives CFLAGS-building functionality * GRP creation and testing * Kernelscript to help ppl configure their kernel """ You'll have to read all newsletters to find such infos. Newbies won't. Maybe we lack a section on the gentoo website. > Looking for constructive suggestions Take a look at a simple but precise Roadmap : http://kopete.sourceforge.net/index.php?page=roadmap note : there are no dates in front of tasks ! This would help so much since volonteers would help on remaining tasks, instead of asking every time. best regards Philippe -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list