From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24263 invoked by uid 1002); 10 Jun 2003 20:02:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 26861 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2003 20:02:52 -0000 From: Todd Berman Reply-To: tberman@gentoo.org To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1055270771.5105.585.camel@isengard.aravir.net> References: <3A96A5B2A1D8AB46B99849DDF1F0BF1E2284EA@sc-msexch-07.extremenetworks.com> <1055270771.5105.585.camel@isengard.aravir.net> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Gentoo Linux Message-Id: <1055275364.15646.12.camel@devweb> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.3.3 (Preview Release) Date: 10 Jun 2003 16:02:44 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] A nice idea to improve portage X-Archives-Salt: d851ea20-1ee5-45c5-873c-2e104b1d6e9a X-Archives-Hash: ccbcfca1e5b2a4ca0256fccc684cb654 On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:46, John Robinson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-10 at 14:16, Balaji Srinivasan wrote: > > A better idea would be if portage wrote those messages to a file and we > > could view it when we wanted. ie. We could have a showEbuildMessages or some > > such program that showed all those messages and allowed you to ack each one. > > I think this would be pretty useful as normally when i am fixing things i > > dont have time to fix all of it in one shot... > > I agree; that would be an excellent idea. I would, however, at least be > in favor of portage printing something in red at the end of an emerge > stating that the file had been updated and needed to be looked at; > better, if it would print the (newly added) contents of the file. Some > of the messages printed are about crucial things that need to be done, > often configuration changes; leaving them to be read only if one feels > like it might leave people thinking that the messages there don't apply > to them. > > - John Just a quick note. I agree completely that portage must somehow output this information after a massive emerge, or store it somewhere, however, I question the sanity of yet another small utility. We already have etc-update, env-update, modules-update and a host of other 'small' applications. In my experience helping people on #gentoo, one of the most common problems is the average new gentoo user's lack of awareness of the existence of these small helper applications. Integrating this with etc-update or another -update application seems like a far better idea than just writing another script. In fact, the idea of replacing all of said applications with ONE gentoo-update seems like something that should be approached in the near future. Even if gentoo-update is just a shell script that calls other shell scripts. --Todd -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list