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* [gentoo-dev] kbd and non virtual PROVIDE
@ 2003-05-01 15:45 Nicholas Brown
  2003-05-02  1:45 ` Daniel Armyr
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Nicholas Brown @ 2003-05-01 15:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

While trying to learn about protage I read this;

Taken from the ebuild 5 man page.
<snip>
PROVIDE = "virtual/TARGET"
              This  variable  should only be used when a package
              provides a virtual target.   For  example,  black-
              down-jdk  and  sun-jdk  provide virtual/jdk.  This
              allows  for  packages  to  depend  on  virtual/jdk
              rather than on blackdown or sun specifically.
<snip>

But a quick search reveals this;

root@littlebox portage # cd /usr/portage/
root@littlebox portage # grep -r "PROVIDE=" * | grep -v "virtual"

app-sci/gperiodic/gperiodic-1.3.2.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-misc/gperiodic"
app-sci/babel/babel-1.6.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-misc/babel"
app-sci/euler/euler-1.59.1.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-misc/euler"
app-sci/euler/ChangeLog:  also removed PROVIDE="app-misc/euler" statment
as it was moved over 6 month ago.
app-sci/octave/octave-2.0.17-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.0.17.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.1.36-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.1.40.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.1.36.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/vis5d+/vis5d+-1.2.1.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-sci/vis5d+"
app-sci/iverilog/iverilog-0.6.1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/iverilog"
dev-java/maven/maven-1.0_beta8.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-java/maven"
dev-java/maven/maven-1.0_beta9.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-java/maven"
dev-lang/ruby-cvs/ruby-cvs-1.8.0-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/ruby-${PV}"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-mysql/ezmlm-idx-mysql-0.40.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-mysql/ezmlm-idx-mysql-0.40-r2.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-pgsql/ezmlm-idx-pgsql-0.40.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-pgsql/ezmlm-idx-pgsql-0.40-r2.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx/ezmlm-idx-0.40-r2.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
sys-apps/kbd/kbd-1.06-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="sys-apps/console-tools"
sys-apps/coreutils/coreutils-4.5.11-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="sys-apps/sh-utils
sys-apps/coreutils/coreutils-5.0.ebuild:PROVIDE="sys-apps/sh-utils
sys-devel/gcc/gcc-2.95.3-r7.ebuild:#PROVIDE="sys-apps/texinfo"


Can anyone explain why this is and what is going on with these packages?

(specifically I was interested in kbd which provides another package
which also exists. I have both kbd and console-tools installed and was
trying to determine if I needed both installed or could remove kbd.)

But why the other packages listed above provide non-virtual packages I'm
also interested in. Most seem to provide themselves, but others (kbd,
coreutils, gcc, ruby-cvs) seem to provide others.

Any explanations welcome.

thanks,
Nick
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] kbd and non virtual PROVIDE
  2003-05-01 15:45 [gentoo-dev] kbd and non virtual PROVIDE Nicholas Brown
@ 2003-05-02  1:45 ` Daniel Armyr
  2003-05-02  9:49   ` Nicholas Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Daniel Armyr @ 2003-05-02  1:45 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

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I think this is part of how packages are moved from one categoryy to
another. Not sure it this has been abandoned in favour of the move file,
or if it is part of the same system.
- --Daniel Armyr

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* Re: [gentoo-dev] kbd and non virtual PROVIDE
  2003-05-02  1:45 ` Daniel Armyr
@ 2003-05-02  9:49   ` Nicholas Brown
  2003-05-11 21:26     ` Nicholas Brown
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Nicholas Brown @ 2003-05-02  9:49 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Daniel Armyr; +Cc: gentoo-dev

That would only explain those on the list that have the same name but a
different group (octave for example).
It does not explain the others (unless they are also changing name as
they move group)
Specifically, why does kbd provide another package (console-tools) that
already exisits? Why don't they both provide a virtual package that
allows you to pick one and on which other packages depend?

the man page does say PROVIDE shouldn't be use for anything else!

thanks,
Nick


On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 02:45, Daniel Armyr wrote:
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> I think this is part of how packages are moved from one categoryy to
> another. Not sure it this has been abandoned in favour of the move file,
> or if it is part of the same system.
> - --Daniel Armyr
> 
> - --
> =========================================
> daniel.armyr@home.se     f00-dar@f.kth.se
> 
> C118 KEVII Hall
> 1A Kent Ridge Rd S.119224
> Singapore                 PGP@pgp.mit.edu
> =========================================
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* Re: [gentoo-dev] kbd and non virtual PROVIDE
  2003-05-02  9:49   ` Nicholas Brown
@ 2003-05-11 21:26     ` Nicholas Brown
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Nicholas Brown @ 2003-05-11 21:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

As I've been unable to find out why packages are PROVIDE'ing non-virtual
packages (ie the claim to provide another package which already
exsists), which is against the described behaviour in the man page,
should I create bug reports against all of these to find out what is
going on?
(I've also queried this behaviour in the forums)

most may relate to package moves but I'm still wondering about
gcc,coreutils,kbd etc.

thanks,
Nick

<snip>
PROVIDE = "virtual/TARGET"
              This  variable  should only be used when a package
              provides a virtual target.   For  example,  black-
              down-jdk  and  sun-jdk  provide virtual/jdk.  This
              allows  for  packages  to  depend  on  virtual/jdk
              rather than on blackdown or sun specifically.
<snip>

  grep -r "PROVIDE=" * | grep -v "virtual"
app-sci/gperiodic/gperiodic-1.3.2.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-misc/gperiodic"
app-sci/babel/babel-1.6.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-misc/babel"
app-sci/euler/euler-1.59.1.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-misc/euler"
app-sci/euler/ChangeLog:  also removed PROVIDE="app-misc/euler" statment
as it was moved over 6 month ago.
app-sci/octave/octave-2.0.17-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.0.17.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.1.36-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.1.40.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/octave/octave-2.1.36.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/octave"
app-sci/vis5d+/vis5d+-1.2.1.ebuild:PROVIDE="app-sci/vis5d+"
app-sci/iverilog/iverilog-0.6.1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/iverilog"
dev-java/maven/maven-1.0_beta8.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-java/maven"
dev-java/maven/maven-1.0_beta9.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-java/maven"
dev-lang/ruby-cvs/ruby-cvs-1.8.0-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="dev-lang/ruby-${PV}"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-mysql/ezmlm-idx-mysql-0.40.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-mysql/ezmlm-idx-mysql-0.40-r2.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-pgsql/ezmlm-idx-pgsql-0.40.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx-pgsql/ezmlm-idx-pgsql-0.40-r2.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
net-mail/ezmlm-idx/ezmlm-idx-0.40-r2.ebuild:PROVIDE="net-mail/ezmlm"
sys-apps/kbd/kbd-1.06-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="sys-apps/console-tools"
sys-apps/coreutils/coreutils-4.5.11-r1.ebuild:PROVIDE="sys-apps/sh-utils
sys-apps/coreutils/coreutils-5.0.ebuild:PROVIDE="sys-apps/sh-utils
sys-devel/gcc/gcc-2.95.3-r7.ebuild:#PROVIDE="sys-apps/texinfo"

On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 10:49, Nicholas Brown wrote:
> That would only explain those on the list that have the same name but a
> different group (octave for example).
> It does not explain the others (unless they are also changing name as
> they move group)
> Specifically, why does kbd provide another package (console-tools) that
> already exisits? Why don't they both provide a virtual package that
> allows you to pick one and on which other packages depend?
> 
> the man page does say PROVIDE shouldn't be use for anything else!
> 
> thanks,
> Nick
> 
> 
> On Fri, 2003-05-02 at 02:45, Daniel Armyr wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > I think this is part of how packages are moved from one categoryy to
> > another. Not sure it this has been abandoned in favour of the move file,
> > or if it is part of the same system.
> > - --Daniel Armyr
> > 
> > - --
> > =========================================
> > daniel.armyr@home.se     f00-dar@f.kth.se
> > 
> > C118 KEVII Hall
> > 1A Kent Ridge Rd S.119224
> > Singapore                 PGP@pgp.mit.edu
> > =========================================
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