From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 25598 invoked by uid 1002); 30 Apr 2003 13:16:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 10045 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 13:16:07 -0000 From: Troy Dack To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <1051631205.12019.49.camel@orange-pc.ces.clemson.edu> References: <20030429001443.GA413@time> <1051631205.12019.49.camel@orange-pc.ces.clemson.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1051759523.21154.11.camel@carbon.internal.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4- Date: 01 May 2003 13:25:24 +1000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new local USE var: vim-with-x X-Archives-Salt: 74588a07-da14-491c-9412-e2bfbc51483b X-Archives-Hash: a6d89802ece170076b6deddb15d7bfea On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 01:46, Grant Goodyear wrote: > It seems to me that the fundamental problem is one of user education > about the meaning of USE flags. Sounds about right. > Having people do 'USE="-X" emerge vim' > to emerge vim without X support is principally a problem because (a) > people don't expect that vim might depend on X, and (b) often don't know > how to turn off X support anyway. Or haven't been bothered to investigate just how Gentoo works > I propose that we go ahead and have vim build with X support if people > don't override the +X useflag, since that's most inline with Gentoo > philosophy. Hear, Hear!! That is the whole point of USE flags! > At the same time, to minimize the number of bug reports I > suggest that we also take the opportunity to discuss USE flags in the > context of vim (and other console text editors) in the install docs. Seems like the best place, since people don't seem to be reading the Gentoo "USE Variable Guide". > The install docs are the only docs that we really know almost all of our > users actually read, I'd say "some" users > so a brief primer about USE flags would be quite > useful there, and vim is a good package to talk about since the absence > or presence of X in USE makes a huge and obvious difference to the build > process, which helps drive home the point about how customizable Gentoo > is. Agreed, an excellent example. -- Troy Dack http://linux.tkdack.com http://webportage.sf.net Public Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x4D90BE3C Key fingerprint = 1F3D 6C15 16AA 09D5 0C96 92E5 FD89 16F9 4D90 BE3C -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list