From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22386 invoked by uid 1002); 30 Apr 2003 13:26:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 22351 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2003 13:26:23 -0000 From: Celestial Wizard To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200304290224.53881.novas007@gmx.net> References: <20030429001443.GA413@time> <20030429011644.GB18711@lucien.dreaming> <20030429033239.GB413@time> <200304290224.53881.novas007@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-d300Iqj2yRAVEGSfPyc+" Organization: Message-Id: <1051709180.7035.3.camel@mrpointy.sunnydale.celestialwizard.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.4- Date: 30 Apr 2003 23:26:20 +1000 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new local USE var: vim-with-x X-Archives-Salt: c6ba8c02-e34b-4bb2-8999-90c6b79667f9 X-Archives-Hash: 7ffca5fcf7ff88af01102dff7dac8ad5 --=-d300Iqj2yRAVEGSfPyc+ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-BwUkhTkKrfZpK3NPOMwq" --=-BwUkhTkKrfZpK3NPOMwq Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2003-04-29 at 16:24, Mike Lundy wrote: > Now that I've successfully managed to come off as elitist, let me=20 > attempt to defend myself :) Use flags seem to me a most obvious thing.=20 > USE=3D"X" means use X. If a package with optional X support does not use=20 > X when I've told it to via the X use flag, I'd consider that a bug.=20 > There's no reason to add additional use flags for something that seems=20 > to stem from a misunderstanding of the distro one is using. You can=20 > only hold someone's hand for so long - it's better to educate the=20 > misguided user than make the use flag system inconsistent. I agree. As I keep telling our sales staff, just because there is a technical solution, doesn't mean it is the only, or even the best, solution. Education should ALWAYS be chosen over a technical modification / solution -- Celestial Wizard RHCE President SEBLUG - South East Brisbane Linux Users Group http://www.seblug.org/ --=-BwUkhTkKrfZpK3NPOMwq Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2003-04-29 at 16:24, Mike Lundy wrote:

Now that I've successfully manag=
ed to come off as elitist, let me=20
attempt to defend myself :) Use flags seem to me a most obvious thing.=20
USE=3D"X" means use X. If a package with optional X support does =
not use=20
X when I've told it to via the X use flag, I'd consider that a bug.=20
There's no reason to add additional use flags for something that seems=20
to stem from a misunderstanding of the distro one is using. You can=20
only hold someone's hand for so long - it's better to educate the=20
misguided user than make the use flag system inconsistent.

I agree. As I keep telling our sales staff, just because there is a t= echnical solution, doesn't mean it is the only, or even the best, solution.=

Education should ALWAYS be chosen over a technical modification / solution<= BR>

-- Celestial Wizard RHCE President SEBLUG - South East Brisbane Linux Users Grouphttp://www.seblug.org/<= /TT>

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