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From: William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>
To: gentoo-dev List <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: new local USE var: vim-with-x
Date: 30 Apr 2003 07:49:10 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1051660150.24674.1610.camel@rattus.Localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030429182847.GH18711@lucien.dreaming>

The problem is that if you build vim with USE=X, and X is not running,
vim will not start as it cannot see X (note that I am talking about
console vim running in a console with no X, not gvim.)  

This was apparently a bug in vim at one time, but even the bugfixed
console version can want X in some circumstances that are likely to
catch people out when can they least expect or afford it (e.g., X
failure: how do you edit XF86Config quickly if you have no X and
therefore no vim: has happened to me!).

To me, the question is whether to stick with a convention that is not
appropriate in this circumstance, or do a logical workaround that can
satisfactorily overcome this behaviour.

Can someone define why console vim needs X anyway, apart from the highly
critical trick of putting a title on the X window?


BillK

On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 02:28, Björn Lindström wrote:
> William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au> [20030429 18:05]:
> > I agree this is fine in theory, but what I am trying to push is that
> > building vim with X is a *BAD* idea because if you lose X as happens
> > occasionally (see the forums for problems with the current XFree-4.3
> > upgrade), you can (and in my case it *HAS* happened), be left with a
> > system without a viable editor - workstation, server or whatever.
> 
> I don't get this. Where I sit, gvim launches vim if it can't connect to
> an X server.
-- 
William Kenworthy <billk@iinet.net.au>


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-04-29 23:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-29  0:14 [gentoo-dev] new local USE var: vim-with-x Aron Griffis
2003-04-29  1:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Björn Lindström
2003-04-29  3:32   ` Aron Griffis
2003-04-29  6:24     ` Mike Lundy
2003-04-29  6:36       ` Bill Kenworthy
2003-04-29 10:07         ` Patrick Börjesson
2003-04-29 10:23           ` Chris Watson
2003-04-29 11:52             ` Patrick Kursawe
2003-04-29 10:08         ` Mark Gordon
2003-04-29 13:05         ` Björn Lindström
2003-04-29 13:12           ` Fredrik Jagenheim
2003-04-29 13:18             ` Björn Lindström
2003-04-29 13:27               ` Bartosch Pixa
2003-04-29 13:38               ` Fredrik Jagenheim
2003-04-29 13:44           ` William Kenworthy
2003-04-29 15:27             ` Björn Lindström
2003-04-29 13:10         ` Aron Griffis
2003-04-29 14:13           ` Mark Gordon
2003-04-29 15:00           ` [gentoo-dev] Was: (Re: new local USE var: vim-with-x ) Default USE Flags Revision Adrian Almenar
2003-04-29 15:05             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-04-29 15:09             ` Daniel Armyr
2003-04-29 13:56         ` [gentoo-dev] Re: new local USE var: vim-with-x Max Kalika
2003-04-29 14:22           ` Daniel Armyr
2003-04-29 14:49             ` Max Kalika
2003-04-29 15:31               ` Caleb Shay
2003-04-29 16:05                 ` William Kenworthy
2003-04-29 18:28                   ` Björn Lindström
2003-04-29 19:41                     ` Mark Gordon
2003-04-29 23:49                     ` William Kenworthy [this message]
2003-04-30  0:29                       ` Peter Fein
2003-04-30  0:47                         ` William Kenworthy
2003-04-30 23:31                           ` Björn Lindström
2003-04-30 12:41                       ` James H. Cloos Jr.
2003-04-29 18:46             ` torbenh
2003-04-29 18:55               ` Dan Armak
2003-05-01 14:16         ` Brad Laue
2003-04-30 13:26       ` Celestial Wizard
2003-04-29 13:01     ` Björn Lindström
2003-04-29 18:16     ` Martin Schlemmer
2003-04-29 20:10       ` Aron Griffis
2003-04-29 15:46 ` [gentoo-dev] " Grant Goodyear
2003-05-01  3:25   ` Troy Dack
2003-04-30 14:08     ` William Kenworthy

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