public inbox for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
* [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
@ 2003-03-14 17:34 Thomas T. Veldhouse
  2003-03-14 20:26 ` Norberto BENSA
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse @ 2003-03-14 17:34 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev

Can anybody explain why bind-tools is at version 9.2.2 but bind itself is
pinned at 9.2.2rc1?  I don't understand this reasoning at all.  I am a
little unclear why there are two separate packages in the first place.

Tom Veldhouse


--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
  2003-03-14 17:34 Thomas T. Veldhouse
@ 2003-03-14 20:26 ` Norberto BENSA
  2003-03-14 21:06   ` Max Kalika
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Norberto BENSA @ 2003-03-14 20:26 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Thomas T. Veldhouse, gentoo-dev

[-- Attachment #1: signed data --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 1062 bytes --]

On Friday 14 March 2003 02:34 pm, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> Can anybody explain why bind-tools is at version 9.2.2 but bind itself is
> pinned at 9.2.2rc1?  I don't understand this reasoning at all.  I am a
> little unclear why there are two separate packages in the first place.
>

When was the last time you emerge synd'ed?

*  net-dns/bind
      Latest version available: 9.2.2
      Latest version installed: 9.2.2
      Size of downloaded files: 4,936 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind9.html
      Description: BIND - Berkeley Internet Name Domain - Name Server

*  net-dns/bind-tools
      Latest version available: 9.2.2
      Latest version installed: 9.2.2
      Size of downloaded files: 4,936 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind9-beta.html
      Description: bind tools: dig, nslookup, and host


BTW, the reason for the two packages is that few people want a name server in 
their boxes, but almost every one want nslookup, host, dig, and other tools.

HTH,
Norberto


[-- Attachment #2: signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
  2003-03-14 20:26 ` Norberto BENSA
@ 2003-03-14 21:06   ` Max Kalika
  2003-03-14 22:44     ` Norberto BENSA
  2003-03-16 15:38     ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Max Kalika @ 2003-03-14 21:06 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: nbensa, gentoo-dev

Quoting Norberto BENSA <nbensa@gmx.net>:

> When was the last time you emerge synd'ed?
> 
> *  net-dns/bind
>       Latest version available: 9.2.2
>       Latest version installed: 9.2.2
> 
> *  net-dns/bind-tools
>       Latest version available: 9.2.2
>       Latest version installed: 9.2.2

I think he's running a stable gentoo (x86 not ~x86) ..

*  net-dns/bind
      Latest version available: 9.2.2_rc1-r2
      Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
      Size of downloaded files: 4,930 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind9-beta.html
      Description: BIND - Berkeley Internet Name Domain - Name Server

*  net-dns/bind-tools
      Latest version available: 9.2.2
      Latest version installed: 9.2.2
      Size of downloaded files: 4,936 kB
      Homepage:    http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind9-beta.html
      Description: bind tools: dig, nslookup, and host


---max kalika
--max@lsit.ucsb.edu
-lsit systems administrator

--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
  2003-03-14 21:06   ` Max Kalika
@ 2003-03-14 22:44     ` Norberto BENSA
  2003-03-16 15:38     ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Norberto BENSA @ 2003-03-14 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Max Kalika, nbensa, gentoo-dev

[-- Attachment #1: signed data --]
[-- Type: text/plain, Size: 283 bytes --]

On Friday 14 March 2003 06:06 pm, Max Kalika wrote:
> Quoting Norberto BENSA <nbensa@gmx.net>:
> > When was the last time you emerge synd'ed?
>
> I think he's running a stable gentoo (x86 not ~x86) ..
>

Yup, I thought 'bout that just right after click on send.

Regards,
Norberto



[-- Attachment #2: signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 189 bytes --]

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
@ 2003-03-14 23:48 Stroller
  2003-03-16 15:37 ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stroller @ 2003-03-14 23:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: stroller

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote
>
> ... bind-tools ... bind itself
> I am a little unclear why there are two separate packages in
> the first place.

Whilst I can't comment on your other points, I supect that the short answer to this last is because "that's the way that Berkeley (?) package them'.

I can see good reason for having 2 separate packages: Joe User buys his DNS hosting service from ISP.net, as he lives out in the country & can't run a 24/7 Bind server (his servers are at another.isp.net & bigISP.com). He wants to query his DNS config periodically, however, to check it, and so he can make requests to customer.admin@ISP.net; consequently Joe User needs Bind-tools, but not Bind itself.

HTH,

Stroller.



--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
  2003-03-14 23:48 [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy Stroller
@ 2003-03-16 15:37 ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
  2003-03-16 19:52   ` Stroller
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse @ 2003-03-16 15:37 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Stroller, gentoo-dev; +Cc: stroller


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stroller" <gentoogimp@myrealbox.com>
To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Cc: <stroller@bigfoot.com>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy



>Whilst I can't comment on your other points, I supect that the short answer
to this last is >because "that's the way that Berkeley (?) package them'.

Uhm  -- no they didn't.  They are in the same source tarball.

>I can see good reason for having 2 separate packages: Joe User buys his DNS
hosting >service from ISP.net, as he lives out in the country & can't run a
24/7 Bind server (his >servers are at another.isp.net & bigISP.com). He
wants to query his DNS config >periodically, however, to check it, and so he
can make requests to >customer.admin@ISP.net; consequently Joe User needs
Bind-tools, but not Bind itself.

I can not.  The size of the additional named binary is small.  Very small.
The cost of building the entire package twice is much bigger.  I can see
having a separate package that installs only the tools, but I can not see
having the bind package not install the tools in the first place.

Tom Veldhouse



--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
  2003-03-14 21:06   ` Max Kalika
  2003-03-14 22:44     ` Norberto BENSA
@ 2003-03-16 15:38     ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Thomas T. Veldhouse @ 2003-03-16 15:38 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: Max Kalika, nbensa, gentoo-dev

Yes, and it is inconsistant :)

Tom Veldhouse

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Max Kalika" <max+lists.gentoo-dev@lsit.ucsb.edu>
To: <nbensa@yahoo.com>; <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy


> *  net-dns/bind
>       Latest version available: 9.2.2_rc1-r2
>       Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ]
>       Size of downloaded files: 4,930 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind9-beta.html
>       Description: BIND - Berkeley Internet Name Domain - Name Server
> 
> *  net-dns/bind-tools
>       Latest version available: 9.2.2
>       Latest version installed: 9.2.2
>       Size of downloaded files: 4,936 kB
>       Homepage:    http://www.isc.org/products/BIND/bind9-beta.html
>       Description: bind tools: dig, nslookup, and host
> 



--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

* Re: [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy
  2003-03-16 15:37 ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
@ 2003-03-16 19:52   ` Stroller
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Stroller @ 2003-03-16 19:52 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: veldy; +Cc: gentoo-dev

Thomas T. Veldhouse said:
>
>>Whilst I can't comment on your other points, I supect that the short
>> answer
>> to this last is because "that's the way that Berkeley (?) package
> them'.
>
> Uhm  -- no they didn't.  They are in the same source tarball.

Many apologies - my mistake. I was quite sure that was the case.

Stroller.



--
gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread

end of thread, other threads:[~2003-03-16 19:48 UTC | newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages (download: mbox.gz follow: Atom feed
-- links below jump to the message on this page --
2003-03-14 23:48 [gentoo-dev] ISC-Bind inconsistancy Stroller
2003-03-16 15:37 ` Thomas T. Veldhouse
2003-03-16 19:52   ` Stroller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-03-14 17:34 Thomas T. Veldhouse
2003-03-14 20:26 ` Norberto BENSA
2003-03-14 21:06   ` Max Kalika
2003-03-14 22:44     ` Norberto BENSA
2003-03-16 15:38     ` Thomas T. Veldhouse

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox