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From: Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] [Fwd: gentoo.org reorg (GDN/GUN)]
Date: 19 Sep 2002 11:03:08 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1032454989.26838.81.camel@inventor.gentoo.org> (raw)

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From: antonio.meireles@epandemic.com
Subject: [gentoo-core] gentoo.org reorg (GDN/GUN)
Date: 17 Sep 2002 17:33:09 +0100

for public review / comments / whatever

________________________________________________________________________
 
version 0.0.1 (14/September/2002 [18h00 GMT-0] )


Objectives/Goals:

        * have gentoo.org to function as a central hub to all our
          (growing) community
        * from an end-user perspective
        * from a developer perspective 
        * from a multilingual/multinational perpective 
        * from an OEM/ISV/VC perpective
        * from  a non  (yet) gentoo-user perpective comming from *NIX
          land
        * from a non (yet) gentoo-user perspective comming fron Win*/Mac
          ...
        * from a (mainstream/IT) press perspective
        * [insert here] from an yet not thougth perspective 

Current issues/problems

        * the current web site is confuse, graphically not very
          atractive and lacks clear focus, doesn 't even have a search
          function
        * the current web site targets (almost) only english speaking
          users
        * there isn 't a clear separation between what is information
          targeted at developers and what is information targeted at
          end-users
        * information regarding the same issues is disperse around
          several places: Mailing lists, foruns, instalation docs,
          bugzilla, etc, makind it hard to find for inexperienced users 
        * when one reach gentoo.org (non gentoo user/developer)  there
          isn 't a clear message about Gentoo nature,  and what make him
          different/better on the front-page
        * the information/structure  available is too english-centric
          wich takes to the proliferation of national/regional gentooo
          sites, which makes us loose cohesion and weakes the community
          as a whole 
        * [insert here] other issues/problems

Watching how others handle the situation ... Four case studies

        * Zope community
            * www.zope.com
            * www.zope.org
        * Microsoft
            * www.microsoft.com
            * support.microsoft.com
            * msdn.microsoft.com
        * ActiveState
            * www..activestate.com
            * aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/
        * Red Hat
            * www.redhat.com
            * www.redhat.com/apps/support/

Proposals/Remedies

split the current gentoo.org in diferent areas with clear different
focus 



        * www.gentoo.org
            * here will be all the general stuff
                * what is Gentoo (whith an high altitude FAQ)
                * Advocacy Docs
                * Social Contract
                * Important News
                * Propaganda Stuff (screenshots, users rave comments,
                  etc)
                * Press Reviews
                * Download Links
                * [insert here] other relevant topics
        * gdn.gentoo.org
            * Gentoo Developer Network (here will be loccated all the
              information relevant to developers -  a cross of ASPN with
              MSDN
                * Developer Docs
                * Bugzilla (developer side) 
                * Developers Only Knowledge Base
                * Developers Only FAQ
                * ARCH specific Documentation 
                * specific developer forums/wikis (see zope.org) 
                * developer Mailing Lists
                * Hardware Compatibilty Guide
                * i18n
                * IRC logs from #gentoo-dev and #gentoo-qa
                * roadmaps, etc
                * [insert here] other relevant topics
        * gun.gentoo.org
            * Gentoo Users Network (here will be located all the
              information relevant to end-users - a cross of
              support.microsoft.com and www.zope.org)
                * End-User HowTos
                * End-User ARCH specific Documentation
                * End-User Oriented Knowledge Base
                * End-User Oriented FAQ collection (on the style of the
                  LDP) 
                    * the three above items should be fully searchable
                      aand indexable)
                * End-User Foruns and Wikis 
                * End-User Focused Polls (usabilty, features, etc) 
                * End-User Mailing Lists
                * Hardware Compatibilty Guide (both by ARCH and by type
                  of HW (sound, networking, etc) 
                    * shared with GDN, should have relevant info
                      extracted from bugzilla, forums, wikis, etc
                      regarding Hardware issues
                * Bugzilla (end user side)
                * [insert here] other relevant topics



    * GDN could be mainly english based (as, like it or not, the English
      is the lingua franca in this world)
    * Both www.gentoo.org and GUN should/must support
      internationalization of content rigth from the start ...
    * GDN would only be accessible to registered Developers (with
      perhaps different access levels) 
    * GUN would be acessible read-only to all, but to take really
      advantage users should register ... 
    * [insert here] other relevant notes





All the best to all, 

António Meireles
--


-- 
Daniel Robbins
Chief Architect, Gentoo Linux
http://www.gentoo.org



             reply	other threads:[~2002-09-19 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-19 17:03 Daniel Robbins [this message]
2002-09-19 18:32 ` [gentoo-dev] [Fwd: gentoo.org reorg (GDN/GUN)] Fred Van Andel
2002-09-19 19:04   ` [gentoo-dev] " Mark Gordon
2002-09-19 19:30 ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven Stillaway
2002-09-19 20:07   ` Peter Ruskin
2002-09-19 23:36   ` William Kenworthy
2002-09-19 23:40     ` Matthew Walker
2002-09-19 22:06 ` Evan Read
2002-09-19 23:14   ` humpback
2002-09-20  8:42     ` Paul de Vrieze
2002-09-20  1:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Mecho Puh
     [not found] <106232945@toto.iv>
2002-09-19 22:20 ` [gentoo-dev] " Jeffrey D. Kowing
     [not found] <83821536@toto.iv>
2002-09-19 22:28 ` Jeffrey D. Kowing
2002-09-24 11:12   ` Thomas M. Beaudry

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