[gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

  I'm currently writing some documentation with regards to installing
  Gentoo using LVM, and I wondered if people would like me to produce
  it as an additional document or as a part of build.xml.  the steps
  that would be touched are partitions (like mentioning 8e as the
  type) and the lvm-commands themselves.  also the copying of
  /etc/lvmtab to /mnt/gentoo/etc/lvmtab, which I forgot last time, and
  which _really_ cost me a lot of grief.

  I am _not_ going to go into having / (or /boot) on a PV (ie, they
  will be normal partitions).  I honestly never saw the big point, and
  it is too much hassle when it breaks.  besides, I don't want to
  document initrd with friends, especially as I don't use them myself.

-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Jon Nelson]

On 09 Aug 2002 02:19:01 +0200
Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> wrote:

> 
>   I'm currently writing some documentation with regards to installing
>   Gentoo using LVM, and I wondered if people would like me to produce
>   it as an additional document or as a part of build.xml.  the steps
>   that would be touched are partitions (like mentioning 8e as the
>   type) and the lvm-commands themselves.  also the copying of
>   /etc/lvmtab to /mnt/gentoo/etc/lvmtab, which I forgot last time, and
>   which _really_ cost me a lot of grief.
> 
>   I am _not_ going to go into having / (or /boot) on a PV (ie, they
>   will be normal partitions).  I honestly never saw the big point, and
>   it is too much hassle when it breaks.  besides, I don't want to
>   document initrd with friends, especially as I don't use them myself.

Agree with you 100% -- just let me know privately and I'll help if
I can -- I've run LVM for quite some time now, and am familiar with using
it as well.

-- 
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Jon Nelson <jnelson@jamponi.net>
C and Python Code Gardener

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Jon Nelson <jnelson@jamponi.net> writes:

> Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> wrote:
> 
> > I'm currently writing some documentation with regards to
> > installing Gentoo using LVM, and I wondered if people would like
> > me to produce it as an additional document or as a part of
> > build.xml.  the steps that would be touched are partitions (like
> > mentioning 8e as the type) and the lvm-commands themselves.  also
> > the copying of /etc/lvmtab to /mnt/gentoo/etc/lvmtab, which I
> > forgot last time, and which _really_ cost me a lot of grief.
> > 
> > I am _not_ going to go into having / (or /boot) on a PV (ie, they
> > will be normal partitions).  I honestly never saw the big point,
> > and it is too much hassle when it breaks.  besides, I don't want
> > to document initrd with friends, especially as I don't use them
> > myself.
> 
> Agree with you 100% -- just let me know privately and I'll help if I
> can -- I've run LVM for quite some time now, and am familiar with
> using it as well.

  it'll be a seperate file, I'm rather sure about that.  for a teaser:

  <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html >

-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Matthew Kennedy]

Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> writes:

>   I'm currently writing some documentation with regards to installing
>   Gentoo using LVM, and I wondered if people would like me to produce
>   it as an additional document or as a part of build.xml.  the steps
>   that would be touched are partitions (like mentioning 8e as the
>   type) and the lvm-commands themselves.  also the copying of
>   /etc/lvmtab to /mnt/gentoo/etc/lvmtab, which I forgot last time, and
>   which _really_ cost me a lot of grief.
> 
>   I am _not_ going to go into having / (or /boot) on a PV (ie, they
>   will be normal partitions).  I honestly never saw the big point, and
>   it is too much hassle when it breaks.  besides, I don't want to
>   document initrd with friends, especially as I don't use them myself.

Terje,

I use LVM with every Gentoo install I perform. If you'd like any
help/review/testing let me know, I'd be glad to assist.

-- 
Matthew Kennedy
Gentoo Linux Developer
Bugs go to http://bugs.gentoo.org!

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Jack Morgan]

On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 02:19:01AM +0200, Terje Kvernes wrote:
>   I am _not_ going to go into having / (or /boot) on a PV (ie, they
>   will be normal partitions).  I honestly never saw the big point, and
>   it is too much hassle when it breaks.  besides, I don't want to
>   document initrd with friends, especially as I don't use them myself.
 
As I also use LVM with all installs including initrd. So let me know if you 
would like help documenting initrd part.

-- 
Jack Morgan
Gentoo-Sparc Developer	

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Jack Morgan <jmorgan@gentoo.org> writes:

> On Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 02:19:01AM +0200, Terje Kvernes wrote:
>
> > I am _not_ going to go into having / (or /boot) on a PV (ie, they
> > will be normal partitions).  I honestly never saw the big point,
> > and it is too much hassle when it breaks.  besides, I don't want
> > to document initrd with friends, especially as I don't use them
> > myself.
>  
> As I also use LVM with all installs including initrd. So let me know
> if you would like help documenting initrd part.

  ooo, yes please!  the rest of the install I can at least draft and
  then get comments on.  I'll try to have a good draft done as soon as
  possible, this weekend at the latest.

-- 
Terje

[gentoo-dev] Documenting using LVM during the install

[Frederic Soulier]

Hi

I have a Gentoo box (dual P3) using GCC 3.1.1 + LVM + ReiserFS built
using 1.3a in June and it's been working like a charm ever since :)

The only quirck about LVM has been during the install when using
/sbin/lvmcreate_initrd. This step would not work because "unresolved
symbol" msgs were spitted out by depmod.

I had to edit /sbin/lvmcreate_initrd and
change:
  depmod -a $VERSION
into:
  depmod -aq $VERSION

to tell depmod to be quiet :) and off it went.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> writes:

> <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html >

  this is now somewhat closer to being done.  it is _not_ proofread,
  so I know there will be errors here and there.  hmpf, aspell is
  having issues on my main Gentoo-desktop box.  comments are welcome,
  and if anyone can send me some initrd-related stuff (Morgan?) I'd be
  more than happy to include that.  it can probably be a nice section
  (or even chapter) on its own.

  the xml file is here: <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.xml >.

  all comments are very welcome.

-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Tony Clark]

Hi Terje,

I'm not sure if the URL below is of help or not but it does though up a number 
of html errors.  I'm no html person so I'm not too sure.  I know that the 
page doesn't not render correctly in konqueror.  A number of the other doc 
pages at gentoo.org don't either for that matter.  Could be important for 
some I guess.   I guess the other thing I like is to number headings as it 
makes it a little easier to read, either that or double space between the 
code listing example and the next heading.  They tend to merge as it is and 
you not really sure if the code listing is for the stuff above it or below 
it.

Thanks for the work...documentation is a tedious but very necessary job.

tony


http://www.htmlhelp.com/cgi-bin/validate.cgi?url=http%3A%2F%2Fterje.kvernes.no%2Flvm.html&warnings=yes&input=yes





On Saturday 10 August 2002 02.10, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> writes:
> > <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html >
>
>   this is now somewhat closer to being done.  it is _not_ proofread,
>   so I know there will be errors here and there.  hmpf, aspell is
>   having issues on my main Gentoo-desktop box.  comments are welcome,
>   and if anyone can send me some initrd-related stuff (Morgan?) I'd be
>   more than happy to include that.  it can probably be a nice section
>   (or even chapter) on its own.
>
>   the xml file is here: <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.xml >.
>
>   all comments are very welcome.

-- 
Contract ASIC and FPGA design.

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Tony Clark <tclark@telia.com> writes:

> Hi Terje,
> 
> I'm not sure if the URL below is of help or not but it does though
> up a number of html errors.  

  I know.  this is a problem with the xsl used by the standard Gentoo
  documentation.  it is _not_ a good thing produce errors per se.

> I'm no html person so I'm not too sure.  I know that the page
> doesn't not render correctly in konqueror.  

  that seems to be a bug in konqueror, but I will see if I can twist
  the xsl around so that it will work correctly.  the problem seems to
  be multiline warning- and note-boxes.

> A number of the other doc pages at gentoo.org don't either for that
> matter.  Could be important for some I guess.  I guess the other
> thing I like is to number headings as it makes it a little easier to
> read, either that or double space between the code listing example
> and the next heading.  They tend to merge as it is and you not
> really sure if the code listing is for the stuff above it or below
> it.

  hm, point.  gawk.  I really hate xsl, oh well, what we don't do for
  the community.  ;-)
 
> Thanks for the work...documentation is a tedious but very necessary job.

  yup.  and you're welcome.  

-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> writes:

> Tony Clark <tclark@telia.com> writes:
> 
> > I'm not sure if the URL below is of help or not but it does though
> > up a number of html errors.
> 
> I know.  this is a problem with the xsl used by the standard Gentoo
> documentation.  it is _not_ a good thing produce errors per se.

  <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm-fixed.html >.  the top image
  breaks up, for some odd reason.  I know it's fixable, I just haven't
  bothered.  also, I don't see any reason why the image _is_ broken,
  but that just might be me.
 
> > I'm no html person so I'm not too sure.  I know that the page
> > doesn't not render correctly in konqueror.  
> 
> that seems to be a bug in konqueror, but I will see if I can twist
> the xsl around so that it will work correctly.  the problem seems to
> be multiline warning- and note-boxes.

  gaaah.  konqueror has _real_ issues.  the fixed page breaks even
  more.  sigh.  maybe it's time to ditch konqueror for good.  I was
  starting to enjoy using it.
 
> > A number of the other doc pages at gentoo.org don't either for
> > that matter.  Could be important for some I guess.  I guess the
> > other thing I like is to number headings as it makes it a little
> > easier to read, either that or double space between the code
> > listing example and the next heading.  They tend to merge as it is
> > and you not really sure if the code listing is for the stuff above
> > it or below it.
> 
> hm, point.  gawk.  I really hate xsl, oh well, what we don't do for
> the community.  ;-)

  my paws are all messy and gooey.  now I need to shoot some pool or
  something.  ;-)
  
-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Tony Clark]

On Saturday 10 August 2002 13.23, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> Terje Kvernes <terjekv@math.uio.no> writes:
> > I know.  this is a problem with the xsl used by the standard Gentoo
> > documentation.  it is _not_ a good thing produce errors per se.
>
>   <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm-fixed.html >.  the top image
>   breaks up, for some odd reason.  I know it's fixable, I just haven't
>   bothered.  also, I don't see any reason why the image _is_ broken,
>   but that just might be me.

Not sure what image you mean.  Seems ok but I may be missing something.
>
>
>   gaaah.  konqueror has _real_ issues.  the fixed page breaks even
>   more.  sigh.  maybe it's time to ditch konqueror for good.  I was
>   starting to enjoy using it.
I have a love/hate relationship with it.  The html validates ok now though.0


>
>
>   my paws are all messy and gooey.  now I need to shoot some pool or
>   something.  ;-)

hmm beer is good

tony
-- 
Contract ASIC and FPGA design.

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Tony Clark <tclark@telia.com> writes:

> On Saturday 10 August 2002 13.23, Terje Kvernes wrote:
>
> > <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm-fixed.html >.  the top image
> > breaks up, for some odd reason.  I know it's fixable, I just
> > haven't bothered.  also, I don't see any reason why the image _is_
> > broken, but that just might be me.
> 
> Not sure what image you mean.  Seems ok but I may be missing something.
> 

  the Gentoo logo thing on the top left.  it breaks in mozilla-based
  browsers.  

> > gaaah.  konqueror has _real_ issues.  the fixed page breaks even
> > more.  sigh.  maybe it's time to ditch konqueror for good.  I was
> > starting to enjoy using it.

> I have a love/hate relationship with it.  The html validates ok now
> though.

  I know.  ;-)

  <url: http://validator.w3.org > is my preferred validator, but
  anyway.  
 
> > my paws are all messy and gooey.  now I need to shoot some pool or
> > something.  ;-)
> 
> hmm beer is good

  beer?  yuck.  ;-)

-- 
Terje - off to play nineball.

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Colin Morey]

On Sat, 2002-08-10 at 14:41, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> Tony Clark <tclark@telia.com> writes:
> 
> > On Saturday 10 August 2002 13.23, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> >
> > > <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm-fixed.html >.  the top image
> > > breaks up, for some odd reason.  I know it's fixable, I just
> > > haven't bothered.  also, I don't see any reason why the image _is_
> > > broken, but that just might be me.
> > 
> > Not sure what image you mean.  Seems ok but I may be missing something.
> > 
> 
>   the Gentoo logo thing on the top left.  it breaks in mozilla-based
>   browsers.  
> 
/me notes that it currently looks fine under galeon.

> > > gaaah.  konqueror has _real_ issues.  the fixed page breaks even
> > > more.  sigh.  maybe it's time to ditch konqueror for good.  I was
> > > starting to enjoy using it.
> 
> > I have a love/hate relationship with it.  The html validates ok now
> > though.
> 
>   I know.  ;-)
> 
>   <url: http://validator.w3.org > is my preferred validator, but
>   anyway.  
>  
if you've made some changes to the root .xsl, would you mind emailing
myself a diff between your revised issue and the version currently in
cvs.. 

Cheers,
Colin Morey,
Aka Peitolm

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Colin Morey]

On Sun, 2002-08-11 at 16:25, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> Colin Morey <Peitolm@gentoo.org> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, 2002-08-10 at 14:41, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> >
> > > the Gentoo logo thing on the top left.  it breaks in mozilla-based
> > > browsers.
> >  
> > /me notes that it currently looks fine under galeon.
> 
>   of course it does.  it uses a rendering engine that actually works.
>   *sigh*
>  
:) last I heard Galeon uses the Gecko Rendering agent Mozilla's core
engine,

(see, http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/previews/2080/1/ better
yet, http://galeon.sourceforge.net)

Colin Morey, 
aka Peitolm@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Colin Morey <Peitolm@gentoo.org> writes:

> On Sat, 2002-08-10 at 14:41, Terje Kvernes wrote:
>
> > the Gentoo logo thing on the top left.  it breaks in mozilla-based
> > browsers.
>  
> /me notes that it currently looks fine under galeon.

  of course it does.  it uses a rendering engine that actually works.
  *sigh*
 
> > <url: http://validator.w3.org > is my preferred validator, but
> > anyway.
>   
> if you've made some changes to the root .xsl, 

  uhm yes, lots of changes, mostly cleanup and adding required
  attributes, doctype and that sort of thing.

> would you mind emailing myself a diff between your revised issue and
> the version currently in cvs..

  I'm going to redo the work and see if I can spot when the image
  breaks apart first.   for a hint, here is the revised xsl against
  the one from guide-xml-latest.tar.gz, as of 26th of July.


--- /var/gentoo-src/gentoo-web/xsl/guide-main.xsl	Tue Jul 23 19:52:21 2002
+++ /var/gentoo-src/gentoo-web/xsl/guide-main.terjekv.xsl	Sat Aug 10 13:09:34 2002
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+	method="html"
+	indent="yes"
+	version="4.01"
+    	omit-xml-declaration="yes"
+	media-type="text/html" />
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+  height="88"><a href="/index.html"><img
+  border="0"
+  src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/gtop-s.jpg"
+  height="88" width="193"
+  alt="Gentoo Logo"/></a></td></tr>
+                <tr><td class="logobg" valign="top" align="center" height="31"><a href="/index.html"><img border="0"
+                      src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/gbot-s.gif"
+                      alt="To index"
+		      width="193"
+		      height="31"/></a></td></tr>
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+                          src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"
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+		          width="125"
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                       </tr>
                       <tr>
                         <td>
-                          <img src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"/>
+                          <img
+                          src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"
+		          width="125"
+			  height="1"
+			  alt=""
+			  />
                         </td>
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@@ -234,19 +274,17 @@
             <td valign="top" height="125" width="1%" bgcolor="#45347b">
               <table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" width="100%">
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-                      <img border="0" src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/gtop-s.jpg"/>
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-                      <img border="0" src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/gbot-s.gif"/>
-                    </a>
-                  </td>
-                </tr>
+                  <td class="logobg" valign="top" align="center"
+                        height="88"><a
+			href="/index.html"><img
+			border="0"
+			src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/gtop-s.jpg" 
+			height="88" width="193" alt="Gentoo Logo"/></a></td></tr>
+                <tr><td class="logobg" valign="top" align="center" height="31"><a href="/index.html"><img border="0"
+                      src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/gbot-s.gif"
+                      alt="To index"
+		      width="193"
+		      height="31"/></a></td></tr>
               </table>
             </td>
             <td colspan="2" valign="bottom" align="left" bgcolor="#000000">
@@ -507,7 +545,12 @@
               <table border="0" cellspacing="5" cellpadding="0">
                 <tr>
                   <td>
-                    <img src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"/>
+                          <img
+                          src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"
+		          width="125"
+			  height="1"
+			  alt=""
+			  />
                   </td>
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                 </tr>
                 <tr>
                   <td>
-                    <img src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"/>
+                          <img
+                          src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"
+		          width="125"
+			  height="1"
+			  alt=""
+			  />
                   </td>
                 </tr>
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                 </tr>
                 <tr>
                   <td>
-                    <img src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"/>
+                          <img
+                          src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"
+		          width="125"
+			  height="1"
+			  alt=""
+			  />
                   </td>
                 </tr>
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                 </tr>
                 <tr>
                   <td>
-                    <img src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"/>
+                          <img
+                          src="http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/images/line.gif"
+		          width="125"
+			  height="1"
+			  alt=""
+			  />
                   </td>
                 </tr>
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@@ -801,9 +859,9 @@
     </font>
   </xsl:template>
   <xsl:template match="i">
-    <font class="input">
+    <em>
       <xsl:apply-templates/>
-    </font>
+    </em>
   </xsl:template>
   <xsl:template match="b">
     <b>


-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Colin Morey <Peitolm@gentoo.org> writes:

  [ yes, I am still working on the documentation xsl, it just takes
  time. ]

> if you've made some changes to the root .xsl, would you mind
> emailing myself a diff between your revised issue and the version
> currently in cvs..

  okay, last night was interesting.  I found out that adding a doctype
  to the standard documentation for Gentoo breaks apart the top images
  (gtop-s and gtop-b) in Gecko-based user agents.  I'm not quite sure
  of what to do about that, yet.  suggestions are welcome.

  input on <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html > is also welcome.

-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Colin Morey]

On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 23:46, Terje Kvernes wrote:

>   okay, last night was interesting.  I found out that adding a doctype
>   to the standard documentation for Gentoo breaks apart the top images
>   (gtop-s and gtop-b) in Gecko-based user agents.  I'm not quite sure
>   of what to do about that, yet.  suggestions are welcome.
> 
interesting.. do you mean a doctype to the xml? as the main Gentoo front
page at http://www.gentoo.org has a Doctype, and yet the images look
fine for me with Galeon v1.2.5

>   input on <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html > is also welcome.

looking good so far.. however I'd be tempted to move the paragraph
that's in the right-hand column of the page,(the summary), into a
forward/preface, otherwise it will cause the right-hand bar to take up a
large amount of screen space on low-res browsers.

Colin Morey.

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Terje Kvernes]

Colin Morey <moreyc@realder.demon.co.uk> writes:

> On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 23:46, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> 
> > okay, last night was interesting.  I found out that adding a
> > doctype to the standard documentation for Gentoo breaks apart the
> > top images (gtop-s and gtop-b) in Gecko-based user agents.  I'm
> > not quite sure of what to do about that, yet.  suggestions are
> > welcome.
>  
> interesting.. do you mean a doctype to the xml? as the main Gentoo
> front page at http://www.gentoo.org has a Doctype, and yet the
> images look fine for me with Galeon v1.2.5

  ah.  interesting.  you give the doctype as:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

  while xsltproc[1] gives:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
  "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">

  which breaks the images.  hm, I'm not sure if you can omit the
  URI[2].  maybe I'll fiddle with this and see what happens.  the big
  issue is that the image breaks with the doctype xsltproc returns,
  since setting the doctype yourself isn't trivial, since it's not
  valid XML, and can't be used in the xsl-document.  maybe one can
  fiddle with CDATA or something?  hmpf.  not my cup of tea.
 
> > input on <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html > is also welcome.
> 
> looking good so far.. 

  well, I'm not sure what is missing from that document.  it is as you
  can see produced with the standard xsl.

> however I'd be tempted to move the paragraph that's in the
> right-hand column of the page,(the summary), into a forward/preface,
> otherwise it will cause the right-hand bar to take up a large amount
> of screen space on low-res browsers.

  I totally agree, but this is the standard Gentoo layout.  I'd be
  _happy_ to fix some visual aspects like this, and remove some table
  usage, and maybe some other small fixes, if people are interested.


  [1] xsltproc returns html doctypes when given a proper xsl:output,
      like this:
        <xsl:output encoding="iso-8859-15"
                    method="html"
	            version="4.01"
                    media-type="text/html"
                    omit-xml-declaration="yes"
                    indent="yes"/>

  [2] W3.org on HTML version info:
      <url: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#version-info >
 


-- 
Terje

Re: [gentoo-dev] documenting using LVM during the install.

[Colin Morey]

On Sun, 2002-08-18 at 01:20, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> Colin Morey <moreyc@realder.demon.co.uk> writes:
> 
> > On Sat, 2002-08-17 at 23:46, Terje Kvernes wrote:
> > 
> > > okay, last night was interesting.  I found out that adding a
> > > doctype to the standard documentation for Gentoo breaks apart the
> > > top images (gtop-s and gtop-b) in Gecko-based user agents.  I'm
> > > not quite sure of what to do about that, yet.  suggestions are
> > > welcome.
> >  
> > interesting.. do you mean a doctype to the xml? as the main Gentoo
> > front page at http://www.gentoo.org has a Doctype, and yet the
> > images look fine for me with Galeon v1.2.5
> 
>   ah.  interesting.  you give the doctype as:
> 
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
> 
>   while xsltproc[1] gives:
> 
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
>   "http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">
> 
interesting... none of the .xml's sets the doc type, that's done in the
.xsl, have you tried updating your .xsl with the one in cvs?

>   which breaks the images.  hm, I'm not sure if you can omit the
>   URI[2].  maybe I'll fiddle with this and see what happens.  the big
>   issue is that the image breaks with the doctype xsltproc returns,
>   since setting the doctype yourself isn't trivial, since it's not
>   valid XML, and can't be used in the xsl-document.  maybe one can
>   fiddle with CDATA or something?  hmpf.  not my cup of tea.
>
you can set it in xml, (the method currently escapse me, but a google
search should dig it up).

  
> > > input on <url: http://terje.kvernes.no/lvm.html > is also welcome.
> > 
> > looking good so far.. 
> 
>   well, I'm not sure what is missing from that document.  it is as you
>   can see produced with the standard xsl.
> 
> > however I'd be tempted to move the paragraph that's in the
> > right-hand column of the page,(the summary), into a forward/preface,
> > otherwise it will cause the right-hand bar to take up a large amount
> > of screen space on low-res browsers.
> 
>   I totally agree, but this is the standard Gentoo layout.  I'd be
>   _happy_ to fix some visual aspects like this, and remove some table
>   usage, and maybe some other small fixes, if people are interested.
well, if you'd like to alter the summary section, (main culprit appears
to be that long ibm based url, then post the xml on bugs.gentoo.org and
assign it to, peitolm@gentoo.org, then I'll get it up on the main
website.

Colin