[gentoo-dev] forums

[gentoo-dev] forums

[David Murphy]

Hi all

You probably know, but there seems to be a problem with the forums site.

Rgds, David

[gentoo-dev] Forums

[Mark T.]

What's up with the forums?  I haven't been able to get to them for a couple 
days now and I haven't seen anything on this list.  Anyone know what's going 
on?


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Forums

[Damon Conway]

On Mon, Jul 08, 2002 at 12:12:14PM -0400, Mark T. wrote:
> What's up with the forums?  I haven't been able to get to them for a couple 
> days now and I haven't seen anything on this list.  Anyone know what's 
> going on?

I have been unable to contact Nitro about the forums.  They were moved
to another server to reduce load on the cvs server a couple of weeks
ago.

kabau

[gentoo-dev] forums

[Jason Pratt]

Are the forums no longer available? I can't access them :(

-J

Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Alexander Gretencord]

On Monday 05 August 2002 18:15, Jason Pratt wrote:
> Are the forums no longer available? I can't access them :(

Somebody on #gentoo said something about bad ram. I find it annoying that 
theres nothing on the gentoo page or on the mailling lists from official 
staff. Could you pls comment and give an ETA ? (Even if it says we dunno when 
we get the new ram but say something :))

Alex

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Felipe Ghellar]

> I find it annoying that 
> theres nothing on the gentoo page or on the mailling lists from
> official staff.

Actually, the "official staff" has little or nothing to do with the
forums. The forums are run and managed entirely by users.



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Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Thomas Beaudry]

Yep.  Sort of reminds me of the Mandrake developers.
One of the things that pushed me off that distribution.

That being said, I just checked and the forums and CVS
are both back up.


> > Are the forums no longer available? I can't access them :(
>
>Somebody on #gentoo said something about bad ram. I find it
>annoying that theres nothing on the gentoo page or on the
>mailling lists from official staff. Could you pls comment
>and give an ETA ? (Even if it says we dunno when we get the
>new ram but say something :))


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Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Thomas Beaudry]

Actually the "official staff" have everything to do with
it.  This is a problem with the server which the users
have nothing to do with.


> > I find it annoying that
> > theres nothing on the gentoo page or on the mailling lists from
> > official staff.
>
>Actually, the "official staff" has little or nothing to do with the
>forums. The forums are run and managed entirely by users.


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Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Robert Coie]

"Thomas Beaudry" <tmbeaudry@msn.com> writes:

> Actually the "official staff" have everything to do with it.  This
> is a problem with the server which the users have nothing to do
> with.

I believe the point fghellar was making is that Gentoo Technologies
has nothing to do with the forums.  The forums are not the same as
www.gentoo.org (all they share is DNS space), and are not the same as
the mailing lists.

Being a forums moderator, fghellar is as close to "official staff" of
the Gentoo Forums as you will likely get; if he says there is no
official staff, I will believe him.

-- 
Robert Coie <rac@apropos.co.jp>
Implementor, Apropos Ltd.

Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Alexander Gretencord]

On Monday 05 August 2002 21:33, Felipe Ghellar wrote:
> Actually, the "official staff" has little or nothing to do with the
> forums. The forums are run and managed entirely by users.

Well then the official gentoo forums staff ... does that make such a 
difference?


Alex

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Kyle Manna]

On Mon, 2002-08-05 at 11:39, Alexander Gretencord wrote:
> On Monday 05 August 2002 18:15, Jason Pratt wrote:
> > Are the forums no longer available? I can't access them :(
> 
> Somebody on #gentoo said something about bad ram. I find it annoying that 
> theres nothing on the gentoo page or on the mailling lists from official 
> staff. Could you pls comment and give an ETA ? (Even if it says we dunno when 
> we get the new ram but say something :))

In an attempt to satisfy your questions here is the scoop.

The forums have been plagued since a few months after starting.  At
first they were started on my personal server, worked great, but soon
started chewing too much bandwith.  We moved them to primary gentoo
server (ie: the one that handles gentoo.org, mailing lists, cvs, and
primary rsync mirror).  That was okay for a while, but soon we started
to chew too much CPU and there wasn't to go around for all the other
services, and the forums were taking a hit.

Soon after, we moved them once again. Kurt Lieber, the other global
moderator, had talked to a guy who would give us colo and rack space and
about 5Mb/s of bandwidth.  Kurt chipped in and donated the hardware and
the new server was born.  This worked great for about a month or two and
then we ran in to more problems. :(  Apparently the last week or two one
of our stick of RAM started dying. So, I had a nice little surpise of a
bunch of logged segfaults.  Common forum visitors may have noticed the
database connection error message, that was because MySQL was touching
(or trying to), touch the bad RAM; not us hitting the max connections as
I originally thought.  I'm not 100% sure when the RAM first started to
die, but it may have been at most a month ago, and may have been the
reason the kernel paniced and we were down for about 10 hours.

So, the RAM was replaced with a stick of Kingston DDR PC2100 ECC. 
Server came up yesterday at around noon (central time), and I check it
out, seemed that the other problems healed up for the most part.

Then, we went down again yesterday at about 6:15 (central time), our
provider (the guy who is donating the bandwidth and colo rack, started
to make his move to the new datacenter.  Fun.  We died for another few
hours and were back up before I went to bed.  Now, it is Aug 6, 1:50 and
the server is again unreachable.  I think our provider is playing with
his routers.  Umm, so we are once again in the dark (I guess we get what
we pay for huh? :))

Hopefully he will finish soon, and we might actually be stable for once.

To answer the argument that has been brewing here, the forums are in
part run by actual Gentoo developers.  This is primarily me, and few
developers moderate appropriate forums.  Most of the other moderators
are simply users.

I was hoping I could wait and write this email later and be able to tell
you all that the server is finally stable, but it isn't.  I guess I will
write that email later.


Holy cow, did I write all this?  Jeez..

> 
> Alex
> 
> -- 
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
> deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> Benjamin Franklin
> 
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

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- Kyle Manna
<nitro [at] gentoo [dot] org>
Gentoo Linux: http://www.gentoo.org
Support Forums: http://forums.gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Alexander Gretencord]

On Tuesday 06 August 2002 22:06, Kyle Manna wrote:
[causes for downtime snipped]

> I was hoping I could wait and write this email later and be able to tell
> you all that the server is finally stable, but it isn't.  I guess I will
> write that email later.

Well I don't wanna know when it's up, I can see that myself, but I wanna know 
when it's down why it's down so I know what's going on. If I see why 
something is down I can more easily wait for it to come up again. So Thanks 
for this mail :)

> Holy cow, did I write all this?  Jeez..

Exactly what I thought when I got it :)


Alex

-- 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety 
deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Benjamin Franklin

[gentoo-dev] forums

[Bob Lockie]

I'm having problems registering for the forums.

I got a "could not insert into database" error first and then:
"Sorry but that email address is already registered to a user
Sorry but this username has already been taken"

Re: [gentoo-dev] forums

[Chris Sykes]

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On Mon, Aug 19, 2002 at 05:48:22PM -0400, Bob Lockie wrote:
> 
> I'm having problems registering for the forums.
> 
> I got a "could not insert into database" error first and then:
> "Sorry but that email address is already registered to a user
> Sorry but this username has already been taken"

Same here.

-- 
Chris Sykes


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