[gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[Sebastian Werner]

Hey

Some packages seems to depend on virtual/kernel or something like this.
I don't like these packages because they told me that i need
kernel-headers and alsa-drivers. I want to use my own kernel and need
some more flexibility at this point. Ok, i can create a own profile
without these packages but if i want to use the new update function
portage want to install these files.. mhh

Thanks in advance

Sebastian

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[gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[Bill Kenworthy]

I have not been able to do an "emerge --update world" for a couple of
weeks now due to various vritual/?????????? packages.  e.g., xmms
depended on virtual/opengl.  I unermerged it and ended up emergeing a
number of other packages in the process of getting it back.  Now it is
done one of those packages, qt, complains of missing virtual/glu when I
try and emerge world.

Can someone explain this whole virtual thing and how to fix, or give a
reference in the docs?

BillK

* I have noted a couple of other emails along these lines, but havent
seen any fixes yet.

Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[Ed Heron]

  Actually, that doc doesn't fully explain virtuals.  It mentions them, then
says it will explain them later, but does not.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sean P. Kane" <spkane@genomatica.com>
To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem


Virtual/* means that it isn't an exact package and you simply need
something that gives you that service (and is who's ebuild is setup to
claim to provide that service).

i.e. there are a variety of system loggers like metalog, syslogd,
syslogd-ng and they all provide virtual/logger, so that any one of them
will suffice for some thing that depends on virtual/logger. Where-as if
you depended on syslogd, the ebuild would fail for someone using
metalog.

I believe this is covered more here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/gentoo-howto.html

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:billk@iinet.net.au]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 16:28
To: gentoo-dev List
Subject: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem


I have not been able to do an "emerge --update world" for a couple of
weeks now due to various vritual/?????????? packages.  e.g., xmms
depended on virtual/opengl.  I unermerged it and ended up emergeing a
number of other packages in the process of getting it back.  Now it is
done one of those packages, qt, complains of missing virtual/glu when I
try and emerge world.

Can someone explain this whole virtual thing and how to fix, or give a
reference in the docs?

BillK

* I have noted a couple of other emails along these lines, but havent
seen any fixes yet.

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RE: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[Sean P. Kane]

Virtual/* means that it isn't an exact package and you simply need
something that gives you that service (and is who's ebuild is setup to
claim to provide that service).

i.e. there are a variety of system loggers like metalog, syslogd,
syslogd-ng and they all provide virtual/logger, so that any one of them
will suffice for some thing that depends on virtual/logger. Where-as if
you depended on syslogd, the ebuild would fail for someone using
metalog.

I believe this is covered more here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/gentoo-howto.html

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:billk@iinet.net.au] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 16:28
To: gentoo-dev List
Subject: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem


I have not been able to do an "emerge --update world" for a couple of
weeks now due to various vritual/?????????? packages.  e.g., xmms
depended on virtual/opengl.  I unermerged it and ended up emergeing a
number of other packages in the process of getting it back.  Now it is
done one of those packages, qt, complains of missing virtual/glu when I
try and emerge world.

Can someone explain this whole virtual thing and how to fix, or give a
reference in the docs?

BillK

* I have noted a couple of other emails along these lines, but havent
seen any fixes yet.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[Bill Kenworthy]

True, this email is the most detail I have found about "virtual" stuff
yet, I cannot find any doco's on this which is why the emails.

It appears to be tied up with the opengl mess - that is most of the
programs are complaining of opengl, glu or glut (by the way this is a 2
month old install that "suddenly" started complaing of this - so whats
changed?  I see that there are some odd comments about Mesa not playing
nicely in the files with nvidia, but I dont have an nvidia card so I'll
unmask and install Mesa and hope that works.  In the meantime, what
about xmms, xscreensaver and a number of others which suddenly will not
build becuase something virtual has poppped up - they have not always
been this way!

I did a fresh install into a vmware VM over the last couple of days and
cannot finish the install as that is now complaining of the same
problems.

Starting to look like something is screwy with the portage tree.

BillK

On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 08:47, Ed Heron wrote:
>   Actually, that doc doesn't fully explain virtuals.  It mentions them, then
> says it will explain them later, but does not.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean P. Kane" <spkane@genomatica.com>
> To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem
> 
> 
> Virtual/* means that it isn't an exact package and you simply need
> something that gives you that service (and is who's ebuild is setup to
> claim to provide that service).
> 
> i.e. there are a variety of system loggers like metalog, syslogd,
> syslogd-ng and they all provide virtual/logger, so that any one of them
> will suffice for some thing that depends on virtual/logger. Where-as if
> you depended on syslogd, the ebuild would fail for someone using
> metalog.
> 
> I believe this is covered more here:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/gentoo-howto.html
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:billk@iinet.net.au]
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 16:28
> To: gentoo-dev List
> Subject: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem
> 
> 
> I have not been able to do an "emerge --update world" for a couple of
> weeks now due to various vritual/?????????? packages.  e.g., xmms
> depended on virtual/opengl.  I unermerged it and ended up emergeing a
> number of other packages in the process of getting it back.  Now it is
> done one of those packages, qt, complains of missing virtual/glu when I
> try and emerge world.
> 
> Can someone explain this whole virtual thing and how to fix, or give a
> reference in the docs?
> 
> BillK
> 
> * I have noted a couple of other emails along these lines, but havent
> seen any fixes yet.
> 
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RE: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem

[Sean P. Kane]

A note: I found out all I did about virtuals from the Documentation, so
it is in there somewhere. The ebuilds are in constant change, so it is
likely that people are adding virutals, because the app depends on it,
but it wasn't listed in depends earlier. You can always try and edit the
ebuild for yourself and see if you can get it to build. Remove the
depend or something and see if it works. Take a look under
/usr/portage/.

Sean


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:billk@iinet.net.au] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 22:38
To: gentoo-dev List
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem


True, this email is the most detail I have found about "virtual" stuff
yet, I cannot find any doco's on this which is why the emails.

It appears to be tied up with the opengl mess - that is most of the
programs are complaining of opengl, glu or glut (by the way this is a 2
month old install that "suddenly" started complaing of this - so whats
changed?  I see that there are some odd comments about Mesa not playing
nicely in the files with nvidia, but I dont have an nvidia card so I'll
unmask and install Mesa and hope that works.  In the meantime, what
about xmms, xscreensaver and a number of others which suddenly will not
build becuase something virtual has poppped up - they have not always
been this way!

I did a fresh install into a vmware VM over the last couple of days and
cannot finish the install as that is now complaining of the same
problems.

Starting to look like something is screwy with the portage tree.

BillK

On Sat, 2002-06-01 at 08:47, Ed Heron wrote:
>   Actually, that doc doesn't fully explain virtuals.  It mentions 
> them, then says it will explain them later, but does not.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean P. Kane" <spkane@genomatica.com>
> To: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:12 PM
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem
> 
> 
> Virtual/* means that it isn't an exact package and you simply need 
> something that gives you that service (and is who's ebuild is setup to

> claim to provide that service).
> 
> i.e. there are a variety of system loggers like metalog, syslogd, 
> syslogd-ng and they all provide virtual/logger, so that any one of 
> them will suffice for some thing that depends on virtual/logger. 
> Where-as if you depended on syslogd, the ebuild would fail for someone

> using metalog.
> 
> I believe this is covered more here: 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/gentoo-howto.html
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Kenworthy [mailto:billk@iinet.net.au]
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 16:28
> To: gentoo-dev List
> Subject: [gentoo-dev] virtual problem
> 
> 
> I have not been able to do an "emerge --update world" for a couple of 
> weeks now due to various vritual/?????????? packages.  e.g., xmms 
> depended on virtual/opengl.  I unermerged it and ended up emergeing a 
> number of other packages in the process of getting it back.  Now it is

> done one of those packages, qt, complains of missing virtual/glu when 
> I try and emerge world.
> 
> Can someone explain this whole virtual thing and how to fix, or give a

> reference in the docs?
> 
> BillK
> 
> * I have noted a couple of other emails along these lines, but havent 
> seen any fixes yet.
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
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