From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 667A3200CA85 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2002 18:20:56 -0500 (CDT) Received: from bgp521202bgs.verona01.nj.comcast.net (bgp521202bgs.verona01.nj.comcast.net [68.38.62.72]) by mtaout03.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Feb 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GUB007K9Q6V5J@mtaout03.icomcast.net> for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:20:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 19:21:27 -0400 From: Edward Muller Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gnunet and Gentoo In-reply-to: To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Cc: Vik Olliver Message-id: <1018394487.5638.132.camel@palin> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: f6521e47-69d7-4cc3-a641-fa5126648e35 X-Archives-Hash: 5c74c5d2107e6d927d5e247ff169cea8 This is an awesome idea. Although after a look through the Gnunet website I'm not convinced that Gnunet would be what we want to use. I'm going to start playing around with gnunet and freenet and look at what it would take to integrate emerge with it.... On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 17:46, Jared H. Hudson wrote: > > This sounds a look a good idea. In fact the MD5 checksums are already a > part of portage, in the files section of any package directory. > > You should be aware though, that the source files and patches that are > downloaded come first from ftp.ibiblio.org, then from the origanal website > for that package. > > For example, emerge'ing emacs would try ftp.ibiblio.org then gnu.org. The > only files that come from Gentoo's main site is the packages/misc small files > like md5 digest, ect. All of this is via rsync or CVS. > > So, the only benefit to a P2P system would be for another place besides > ftp.ibiblio.org, its mirrors, or original site to download from. > > -Jared H. > > On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Vik Olliver wrote: > > > Now that Gnunet has settled down: > > > > http://gecko.cs.purdue.edu/gnet/ > > > > Might it be possible to use Gnunet to distribute the source tarballs > > among Gentoo installations? > > > > As most users will tend to have their tarballs stored locally and are > > very likely to have a network connection, Gentoo is an ideal > > distribution for P2P updating - provided that some trusted GPG signature > > (or MD5 at a pinch) can be used to verify the integrity of the source. > > > > Implementing this system frees Gentoo and all its applications from the > > burden and expense of having to maintain a central source repository > > with high bandwidth, allowing the distribution to grow freely at its own > > pace. Fixes will percolate through automatically, software that is > > banned in backward parts of the world will come through via untraceable > > routes, and the caching will ensure that the file requests are > > distributed evenly. > > > > I regret that I am already fully comitted (possibly over-comitted) to > > charitable projects already, but I believe this idea should be aired to > > those willing and able to implement it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Vik Olliver > > > > -- > Using the internet as it was originally intended... > for the further research of pornography and pipebombs. > > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev