[gentoo-dev] vile and more

[gentoo-dev] vile and more

[Jan Wells]

One day I'll change distros.  Your is in the running for sure.  A big 
deal for an old guy who is sometimes all thumbs, but I'm thinking along 
those lines.  I was pleased to see that vile/xvile is included among 
your packages.  Hurray for that (though the maintainer is past due for a 
  new version, seems to me).  icewm and xfce?  I don't know whether I'll 
end up with icewm mostly or xfce mostly, but I use each of those more 
than either gnome or kde.  Ted (an .rtf "notepad") seems to be missing. 
    I use Ted lots.  Python 2.2 -- is that not a worry?  I cannot cite 
specifics, but some items I've got now don't like the latest Python.

Indeed, dependency issues have become a big deal here.  I've been 
running Mandrake and can't resist grabbing stuff off the shelves at 
Madrake Cooker.  For the most part, and until recently, all was well. 
Now there's an awful, catch-22 issue with libpng or some such.  Probably 
you are dealing with the same nightmare?  I do like trying the latest 
and greatest of this or that; but messing up the installation here I do 
not like.  gentoo would help alleviate the problem?

You're using grub.  Here, multi-boot is achieved via System Commander, 
with lilo residing under /boot on the second of my two SCSI drives.  The 
arrangement causes grief with kernel updates.  Or in my hands, it does. 
  How would gentoo react to being installed on the second drive, I 
wonder?  grub would need to be installed on the first partion of the 
first drive (along with three DOSs plus NT)?  I've become attached to my 
familiar System Commander, but maybe you would advise getting rid of it 
in favor of grub.

Well, mostly I wish to register a Bravo! for including vile.

By the way, I'd not be able to anything with gentoo before a CD was 
available for purchase.  No CD burner here, and I use a modem for 
Internet access.

Best wishes,
     Mr. Jan Wells.

Re: [gentoo-dev] vile and more

[Stuart Bouyer]

On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 02:55, Jan Wells wrote:
<snip>
> You're using grub.  Here, multi-boot is achieved via System Commander, 
> with lilo residing under /boot on the second of my two SCSI drives.  The 
> arrangement causes grief with kernel updates.  Or in my hands, it does. 
>   How would gentoo react to being installed on the second drive, I 
> wonder?  grub would need to be installed on the first partion of the 
> first drive (along with three DOSs plus NT)?  I've become attached to my 
> familiar System Commander, but maybe you would advise getting rid of it 
> in favor of grub.
Gentoo works fine on a second drive, actually third drive here. I
multiboot with xosl (http://www.xosl.org) and grub for linux, make
kernel updates a breeze compared with Lilo

> 
> Well, mostly I wish to register a Bravo! for including vile.
> 
> By the way, I'd not be able to anything with gentoo before a CD was 
> available for purchase.  No CD burner here, and I use a modem for 
> Internet access.
> 
> Best wishes,
>      Mr. Jan Wells.
> 
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RE: [gentoo-dev] vile and more

[Sherman Boyd]

On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 02:55, Jan Wells wrote:
<snip>
> You're using grub.  Here, multi-boot is achieved via System Commander,
> with lilo residing under /boot on the second of my two SCSI drives.  The
> arrangement causes grief with kernel updates.  Or in my hands, it does.
>   How would gentoo react to being installed on the second drive, I
> wonder?  grub would need to be installed on the first partion of the
> first drive (along with three DOSs plus NT)?  I've become attached to my
> familiar System Commander, but maybe you would advise getting rid of it
> in favor of grub.

Grub is pretty awesome Jan.  I don't know too much about system commander,
but the great thing about grub is that you can change things on the fly.
For example you can create a new kernel and boot to it interactively instead
of adding it to the menu.  Perhaps you add a friends hard drive, and need to
boot off it for some obscure reason ... you can do it interactively from the
boot prompt.  Grub is good.  Check out this grub tutorial by Daniel Robbins:

http://www-105.ibm.com/developerworks/education.nsf/linux-onlinecourse-bytit
le/0F1731DC664023B7862569D0005C44AF?OpenDocument

You have to register with developerworks but it is worth it.  Of course
check out the GNU Grub home page:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/

and the original grub documentation:

http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/

Don't switch to anything you're not comfortable with, but I highly recommend
grub.  By the way, this thread may not be appropriate for the developer
list, I think it belongs in gentoo-users.

meekrob

Re: [gentoo-dev] vile and more

[Maciek Borowka]

On Monday 25 March 2002 13:39, Sherman Boyd wrote:

> Don't switch to anything you're not comfortable with, but I highly
> recommend grub.

.... unless you are using ataraid controller... I never actually managed to 
get grub to work on such a hardware (Promise Lite)... And lilo worked like a 
charm...

If someone has an URL of how to make grub work with ide hardware raid,
I would be grateful... :+)

/Maciek



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