From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from sequel.washere.com (dsl092-079-131.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.79.131]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87BD720AA0C3 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 13:41:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from wubble.genuity.com (wubble.washere.com [172.30.42.37]) by sequel.washere.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B843721484 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 14:23:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] /etc/init.d From: Ric Mesier To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <3C8D0648.6070300@colubris.com> References: <3C8CEDD8.2000907@colubris.com> <3C8CF4C5.1050901@colubris.com> <20020311184223.GB28735@rearviewmirror.org> <3C8D0648.6070300@colubris.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0.2 Date: 11 Mar 2002 14:37:12 -0500 Message-Id: <1015875432.13991.32.camel@wubble.Genuity.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: a84c08c0-f86a-4706-88ff-6fd5ff67129f X-Archives-Hash: a9f7ee47c1eed8de1ae6090339487727 Yannick, I appreciate your argument, but you can't equate a start-up script with a binary. Yes, the binary is critical but it isn't likely to be custom-altered like a start-up script might be. If I emerge package, I expect the binaries to be altered. If I created a customer rc script, then I want to be the one to clobber it, not have the emerge clobber it. This whole argument may well be irrelevant anyway. If you want to have the scripts clobbered, then feel free to export CONFIG_PROTECT="". It seems to be very nicely flexible in this fashion -- more of the genius of the portage system. Ric On Mon, 2002-03-11 at 14:32, Yannick Koehler wrote: > > Actually I think it's even worse treating those files as config. > Because new users, the one that you always want to get in a distro may > be running pretty old script as they may not be aware on how to do the > merge step manually. > I suspect your argument falls down here. New users more than likely haven't altered any of the scripts there and as a result, they may be able to unprotect the system when they do an emerge. Bottom line is, it seems to be up to the individual user. Ric