[gentoo-dev] need advice on ebuilding xemacs 21.4.6 --with-gtk --with-gnome

[gentoo-dev] need advice on ebuilding xemacs 21.4.6 --with-gtk --with-gnome

[Matthew Kennedy]

As you might already know, there is an
app-editors/gtk-xemacs/gtk-xemacs-21.1.12_p3. I think this is the
original proof of concept xemacs with support for gtk and gnome. I
believe the main development for gtk-xemacs now happens in the xemacs
"gamma" branch (21.4.x) now. We already have a
app-editors/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5.ebuild though and this is the source of
my dilemma.

The existing app-editors/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.5 will use motif (or athena
optionally) via USE. I would have liked to change
app-editors/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.x to configure --with-gtk --with-gnome,
but that is unreasonable given that people would still like to
--with-widgets=motif etc.  Put another way, I can't really test USE for
gtk and gnome accordingly because poeple could have motif in there.

I had thought briefly about determining what to use to build
xemacs-21.4.x based on whether gtk and gnome appear before motif in USE,
but I haven't seen any evidence yet that USE should be used this way.

My conclusion is that gtk-xemacs-21.1.12_p3 should be superseded by a
xemacs-21.4.x --with-gnome --with-gtk (which i'm testing now on my own
machine for 21.4.6 and plan to submit to bugs.gentoo.org). I would call
the package, app-editors/gtk-xemacs/gtk-xemacs-21.4.6.ebuild and it
would be distinct from app-editors/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.x.ebuild (which
would remain motif/athena builds). Does this plan sound about right to
the more experienced contributors and maintainers?

Just checking...

Matt (irc burnside)

Re: [gentoo-dev] need advice on ebuilding xemacs 21.4.6 --with-gtk --with-gnome

[Geert Bevin]

On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 08:55, Matthew Kennedy wrote:
> My conclusion is that gtk-xemacs-21.1.12_p3 should be superseded by a
> xemacs-21.4.x --with-gnome --with-gtk (which i'm testing now on my own
> machine for 21.4.6 and plan to submit to bugs.gentoo.org). I would call
> the package, app-editors/gtk-xemacs/gtk-xemacs-21.4.6.ebuild and it
> would be distinct from app-editors/xemacs/xemacs-21.4.x.ebuild (which
> would remain motif/athena builds). Does this plan sound about right to
> the more experienced contributors and maintainers?

Hello,

last time I checked out xemacs with gtk support is was not long ago, it
was already a 21.4.x. However is was considered experimental and really
didn't functional well. There were a lot of interface bugs amongst which
the lack of scrollbars for instance. If such an ebuild would be added,
it should be very well tested to check if it can be considered stable
for regular usage.

Best regards,

Geert

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Re: [gentoo-dev] need advice on ebuilding xemacs 21.4.6 --with-gtk --with-gnome

[Matthew Kennedy]

Thanks Geert. This is encouraging then. Although the GTK version is
still not as robust as the other toolkit versions, the 21.4.x series has
progressed well in terms of GTK support. Well enough that I've used it
as my only xemacs since 21.4.4 (.3?). 21.4.6 scrollbars work fine, the
menu bar works fine, the widgets work okay (some subtle stuff in the
customization groups)...

21.4.6 is definitly superior to the forked 21.1.12_p3 version we
currently have. I look forward to sending what I have to bugs.gentoo
after a little more testing and possibly a README.Gentoo to explain what
to expect as a user.

Matt

On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 11:23, Geert Bevin wrote:
> last time I checked out xemacs with gtk support is was not long ago, it
> was already a 21.4.x. However is was considered experimental and really
> didn't functional well. There were a lot of interface bugs amongst which
> the lack of scrollbars for instance. If such an ebuild would be added,
> it should be very well tested to check if it can be considered stable
> for regular usage.