From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from bender.hallendal.net (as1-4-5-1.han.s.bonet.se [194.236.131.211]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2877E24943 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 14:19:52 -0600 (CST) Received: from zoidberg.hallendal.net (unknown [192.168.114.10]) by bender.hallendal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95FE04DF0 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2001 21:20:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] ebuilds for kde3 beta etc. From: Mikael Hallendal To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20011225094918.D6926@chiba.3jane.net> References: <0GOR009629L95F@mxout2.netvision.net.il> <3C26E6FB.6010600@theleaf.be> <1009242742.1501.0.camel@zoidberg> <0GOV00D81VGO1H@mxout1.netvision.net.il> <20011224231121.A6926@chiba.3jane.net> <1009282203.1648.4.camel@zoidberg> <20011225094918.D6926@chiba.3jane.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-FaRG9P0ov9qEA78jUWQk" X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release) Date: 25 Dec 2001 21:19:43 +0100 Message-Id: <1009311584.8850.0.camel@zoidberg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 292c7406-3ccf-413f-92dd-f86aef1c96f3 X-Archives-Hash: 17ec672e807fbc1fd420bc65b8aa484c --=-FaRG9P0ov9qEA78jUWQk Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tis 2001-12-25 klockan 16.49 skrev Daniel Robbins: > On Tue, Dec 25, 2001 at 01:10:02PM +0100, Mikael Hallendal wrote: > > Well, it's very much unsolved. Because users don't care about masking > > once they've learned how to get around it. As I said before _beta, > > masking will only hold back some and tell that it's unstable. But we'll > > end up supporting the stuff anyway. >=20 > This is easily solved. Just put a very clear comment in package.mask aro= und > the mask entries stating in no unclear terms that *these packages are not= yet > supported*, are *for developers only*, and *are very unstable*. *use at = your > own risk*, *not a good idea* and *you'll regret it later* should do the t= rick! > :) >=20 > > This is just as the /incoming directory which many users started to use > > even though they shouldn't. >=20 > How so? The ebuilds in /incoming are untested and should not be used by users. But since it's available to users, users use it anyway. I think it all comes down to what kind of distribution we want to create. If we want to make a distribution for those that create it and use-at-own-risk for everyone else (this is all fine by me) we should clearly state this (to users and developers). If we want to create a distributions for everyone we have to go around to make users don't hurt themeselfs. Since users _will_ do bad things to there own systems if they are able to. And if so, masking and comments are not enough, imho.=20 CVS branches solves these problems (and we have to start using branches sooner or later anyway, preferable when we release 1.0).=20 Regards, Mikael Hallendal --=20 Mikael Hallendal Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden --=-FaRG9P0ov9qEA78jUWQk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA8KN9fm0/ts8TQAWgRAqTuAKD17nV0oGFoaI224Vvnvj+jc/1d/QCfeAqz 0oirv5KTKNQIRuzzNJCRls0= =r+VA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-FaRG9P0ov9qEA78jUWQk--