* [gentoo-dev] Evolution 1.0 in Portage @ 2001-12-03 22:12 Mikael Hallendal 2001-12-04 13:54 ` djamil essaissi 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-03 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev; +Cc: gentoo-user, desktop [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 304 bytes --] Hi! Ximian has now released Evolution 1.0, just wanted to inform you that it's now available in the Portage tree in net-mail/evolution. Regards and hope you'll enjoy, Mikael Hallendal -- Mikael Hallendal Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Evolution 1.0 in Portage 2001-12-03 22:12 [gentoo-dev] Evolution 1.0 in Portage Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-04 13:54 ` djamil essaissi 2001-12-05 15:39 ` Mikael Hallendal 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: djamil essaissi @ 2001-12-04 13:54 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org la classe ! portage question number N: will it break anything emerging to independants packages (ebuilds) in the same time ? i dont wanna try it ... as twice in the past doing a CTRL-C on emerge blowup the whole portage system .... grutz On Mon, 2001-12-03 at 23:12, Mikael Hallendal wrote: > Hi! > > Ximian has now released Evolution 1.0, just wanted to inform you that > it's now available in the Portage tree in net-mail/evolution. > > Regards and hope you'll enjoy, > Mikael Hallendal > > -- > > Mikael Hallendal > Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader > CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Evolution 1.0 in Portage 2001-12-04 13:54 ` djamil essaissi @ 2001-12-05 15:39 ` Mikael Hallendal 2001-12-06 1:51 ` [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) Miguel S. Filipe 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-05 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 659 bytes --] tis 2001-12-04 klockan 14.54 skrev djamil essaissi: > la classe ! > > portage question number N: > will it break anything emerging to independants packages (ebuilds) in > the same time ? No, this is a very nice feature in Portage. Since it doesn't use a single shared database file it's no problem. You should look though that two seperate emergies doesn't try to install the packages (which might cause problems since the second might clean the build directory while the first one is working in there). Regards, Mikael Hallendal -- Mikael Hallendal Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) 2001-12-05 15:39 ` Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-06 1:51 ` Miguel S. Filipe 2001-12-06 6:04 ` [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) Mikael Hallendal 2001-12-06 6:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) Daniel Robbins 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Miguel S. Filipe @ 2001-12-06 1:51 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org While reading this, It reminded me of a thought i allready had. Why isn't portage more multi-task? What stops it from, while it's busy building something, downloading the packages that its going to (build/compile/install) next? This would speed up the merging process for those with slow internet connections, and it would not affect performance I believe. Is there any problem with this? Is it just dificult to implement, or its much more tricky and problematic that it seems? Mikael Hallendal wrote: >tis 2001-12-04 klockan 14.54 skrev djamil essaissi: > >>la classe ! >> >>portage question number N: >>will it break anything emerging to independants packages (ebuilds) in >>the same time ? >> > >No, this is a very nice feature in Portage. Since it doesn't use a >single shared database file it's no problem. You should look though that >two seperate emergies doesn't try to install the packages (which might >cause problems since the second might clean the build directory while >the first one is working in there). > >Regards, > Mikael Hallendal > But.. in that case, I simply can't do.. since the second can mess up the first emerge. Right? However, paralel emerges would be very nice, In fact.. another thing that crossed my mind.. is why doesn't portage, builds independent packages in parallel(at the same time)? I'm saying this, because i've noticed in my SMP box, that, even when i'm "ebuilding" something, i still have a lot of CPU idle.. (i used top to "check this out") it simply appears that, gcc, make and other apps don't take full use of the available CPU. So, launching multiple ebuilds, and downloading, would use the system mutch more efficently, (and obviously, higher loads will make it more unsresponsive). There must be a way to take advange of this, without having the whole system at his knees (limiting the number of parallel ebuilds that would be launched automaticaly, but letting the user run has mutch has he pretends to). Is this really a good idea? If not.. why? Regards, Miguel Sousa Filipe ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) 2001-12-06 1:51 ` [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) Miguel S. Filipe @ 2001-12-06 6:04 ` Mikael Hallendal 2001-12-06 10:15 ` djamil essaissi 2001-12-06 6:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) Daniel Robbins 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-06 6:04 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 970 bytes --] tor 2001-12-06 klockan 02.51 skrev Miguel S. Filipe: > While reading this, It reminded me of a thought i allready had. > > Why isn't portage more multi-task? What stops it from, while it's busy > building something, downloading the packages that its going to > (build/compile/install) next? > This would speed up the merging process for those with slow internet > connections, and it would not affect performance I believe. Is there any > problem with this? Is it just dificult to implement, or its much more > tricky and problematic that it seems? This has been discussed, also the possibility to download all packages before starting to build (so that you can disconnect before starting to build). Even on a fast connection it would be very nice to have the downloading being done while compiling. Regards, Mikael Hallendal -- Mikael Hallendal Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 232 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) 2001-12-06 6:04 ` [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-06 10:15 ` djamil essaissi 2001-12-06 17:13 ` jano 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: djamil essaissi @ 2001-12-06 10:15 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org I think the minimum we can do right now is: having the ebuilds work in a totally independant way , for example using a directory exclusivly. and/or why not "not" deleting the source tree, so other pakages can use the already compiled object files ... this is totally "doable" as the strong point of emerge is the fact that it doesnt use the shared database stuff ... thank you guys again for this giant work . D. On Thu, 2001-12-06 at 07:04, Mikael Hallendal wrote: > tor 2001-12-06 klockan 02.51 skrev Miguel S. Filipe: > > While reading this, It reminded me of a thought i allready had. > > > > Why isn't portage more multi-task? What stops it from, while it's busy > > building something, downloading the packages that its going to > > (build/compile/install) next? > > This would speed up the merging process for those with slow internet > > connections, and it would not affect performance I believe. Is there any > > problem with this? Is it just dificult to implement, or its much more > > tricky and problematic that it seems? > > This has been discussed, also the possibility to download all packages > before starting to build (so that you can disconnect before starting to > build). > > Even on a fast connection it would be very nice to have the downloading > being done while compiling. > > Regards, > Mikael Hallendal > > -- > > Mikael Hallendal > Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader > CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) 2001-12-06 10:15 ` djamil essaissi @ 2001-12-06 17:13 ` jano 2001-12-06 17:53 ` Daniel Robbins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: jano @ 2001-12-06 17:13 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev I doubt I have to mention this, but for the sake of "being careful" to make sure the programs downloaded are finished before attempting to compile them. :) Would it be useful to be able to toggle parallel downloading/compiling? Only case I can see it helpful would be with a fairly antiquated machine. > I think the minimum we can do right now is: > having the ebuilds work in a totally independant way , for example > using a directory exclusivly. > and/or why not "not" deleting the source tree, so other pakages can use > the already compiled object files ... > this is totally "doable" as the strong point of emerge is the fact that > it doesnt use the shared database stuff ... > > thank you guys again for this giant work . > > D. > > On Thu, 2001-12-06 at 07:04, Mikael Hallendal wrote: >> tor 2001-12-06 klockan 02.51 skrev Miguel S. Filipe: >> > While reading this, It reminded me of a thought i allready had. >> > >> > Why isn't portage more multi-task? What stops it from, while it's >> > busy building something, downloading the packages that its going to >> > (build/compile/install) next? >> > This would speed up the merging process for those with slow >> > internet >> > connections, and it would not affect performance I believe. Is there >> > any problem with this? Is it just dificult to implement, or its >> > much more tricky and problematic that it seems? >> >> This has been discussed, also the possibility to download all packages >> before starting to build (so that you can disconnect before starting >> to build). >> >> Even on a fast connection it would be very nice to have the >> downloading being done while compiling. >> >> Regards, >> Mikael Hallendal >> >> -- >> >> Mikael Hallendal >> Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader >> CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden >> > > > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) 2001-12-06 17:13 ` jano @ 2001-12-06 17:53 ` Daniel Robbins 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Daniel Robbins @ 2001-12-06 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 09:13:07AM -0800, jano wrote: > > I doubt I have to mention this, but for the sake of "being careful" to make > sure the programs downloaded are finished before attempting to compile them. > :) Would it be useful to be able to toggle parallel downloading/compiling? > Only case I can see it helpful would be with a fairly antiquated machine. Don't worry; I'll be covering all the bases. You will be able to tune the amount of parallelization you want. The main feature that everyone will probably want to enable is to be able to download the sources for an application that hasn't yet started to compile, since another one is building at the moment. Best Regards, -- Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org> Chief Architect/President http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Technologies, Inc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) 2001-12-06 1:51 ` [gentoo-dev] Multiple emerges at the same time. ("multi-tasking" in portage) Miguel S. Filipe 2001-12-06 6:04 ` [gentoo-dev] multitasked emerge (download while build ...) Mikael Hallendal @ 2001-12-06 6:41 ` Daniel Robbins 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Daniel Robbins @ 2001-12-06 6:41 UTC (permalink / raw To: gentoo-dev On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 01:51:46AM +0000, Miguel S. Filipe wrote: > While reading this, It reminded me of a thought i allready had. > > Why isn't portage more multi-task? What stops it from, while it's busy > building something, downloading the packages that its going to > (build/compile/install) next? > This would speed up the merging process for those with slow internet > connections, and it would not affect performance I believe. Is there any > problem with this? Is it just dificult to implement, or its much more > tricky and problematic that it seems? I have actually started working on this and should have it done in a few days. Best Regards, -- Daniel Robbins <drobbins@gentoo.org> Chief Architect/President http://www.gentoo.org Gentoo Technologies, Inc. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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