From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.5 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24,DMARC_NONE, INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from as1-4-5-1.han.s.bonet.se ([194.236.131.211] helo=bender.hallendal.net) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 160061-0000vM-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Sat, 03 Nov 2001 05:40:21 -0700 Received: from zoidberg.hallendal.net (unknown [192.168.0.10]) by bender.hallendal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D824E01 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:40:22 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Using gentoo-announce for more routine decision/ebuild announcements From: Mikael Hallendal To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <0GM700K8YSV0MB@mxout2.netvision.net.il> References: <0GLX00MHKJYFEZ@mxout2.netvision.net.il> <1004740307.2965.5.camel@fry> <0GM700K8YSV0MB@mxout2.netvision.net.il> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-eihoK9xfooU2rkhzCpZ3" X-Mailer: Evolution/0.15 (Preview Release) Message-Id: <1004791297.12881.4.camel@zoidberg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Sat Nov 3 05:41:01 2001 X-Original-Date: 03 Nov 2001 13:41:36 +0100 X-Archives-Salt: 6518c938-8ffd-4660-a37e-b74e69ed9dc7 X-Archives-Hash: afaad8cf908716e2da2ffd10de91d8b7 --=-eihoK9xfooU2rkhzCpZ3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable l=F6r 2001-11-03 klockan 08.58 skrev Dan Armak: > Hi, >=20 > > > This can include various decisions - unified ebuild style, install -> > > > /usr, etc. and announcements of important/interesting new ebuilds and > > > major new versions of existing ones. > > > > However I don't agree with you here. IMHO gentoo-announce should be for > > _users_, Gentoo-dev is for posting such things as "unified ebuild > > style". > > > > install -> /usr should defenatly be at gentoo-announce. > > >=20 > I think gentoo-announce should be read by both users and developers, but = I=20 > agree that some topics may be better off on gentoo-dev. Something better=20 > fitting on gentoo-announce might be, "We have a new document on the site=20 > about the new unified ebuild style". After all, all gentoo users are=20 > potential ebuild writers. Yes, it should be read by both. But the information should be for users (and of course developers are users too so they'll read the information as users). =20 > > > I for one am tired of reading the cvs logs, and as Azarah says, most = of > > > us aren't on IRC 24/7 and can't follow all the discussions that take > > > place. > > > > Hmm .. I think that all developers should read the cvs logs, it takes > > about 2 minutes each day to read. I you haven't subscribe to the > > cvs-list and you'll get a mail with all changes every day. > I do read the cvs logs. Perhaps a better point would have been that they = are=20 > usually very short and if I see something interesting I have to look it u= p.=20 It is short and if you want to look something up you look in gentoo-dev or emails the guy who made the change. > > I'd think that 1 mail/day to gentoo-announce would be far to much. This > > should be a list for people interested in gentoo or users that don't > > want to follow the discussions, just the decissions. > > Well, maybe 1 in two days, but I think that things of medium importance=20 > should be in as well, not just the big ones like install->/usr. Like=20 > drobbins's recent announcements of new Portage versions, any major new=20 > versions of major apps should be announced. We'll see how many messages t= hat=20 > makes, and if there are too many, we can do more aggressive filtering. Since this list is for those that want's to stay tuned on what's happening in the project without having to read the discussions on gentoo-user/gentoo-dev messages should only be about things that users might care about.=20 A new version of Portage would of course fall in this category since users won't be able to use newer ebuilds without it. I think that things like "Finally Evolution works, added RC1..." or "KDE3 is now added to portage, read about it on http://...." =20 > Also, in case you've missed it, Drobbins quietly agreed to a test period = of=20 > sorts. Send any announcements to the list, it's moderated. Yeah, I snapped it up on IRC. Regards, Mikael Hallendal Mikael Hallendal Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Leader CodeFactory AB, Stockholm, Sweden --=-eihoK9xfooU2rkhzCpZ3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQA74+YAm0/ts8TQAWgRArOtAKCs/q9Fdo6x3MzquIqzqO5dNeBOtACfR1eA yAxXBJNE9z2gkZjdqYtbfrk= =NJAv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-eihoK9xfooU2rkhzCpZ3--