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Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Archives-Salt: c0ac0b02-1555-402a-b73c-4cd620433ea2 X-Archives-Hash: eb32f44551f64c1d3eb9b85d1e218e61 On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 22:56 +0000, stefan11111 wrote: > On 2024-02-09 21:56, Eli Schwartz wrote: > > On 2/9/24 4:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > This is the part where you try to convince me that the things I > > > want > > > are stupid. OK. I don't care. I want it off. Leave me alone :) > >=20 > >=20 > > As evidenced by the removal of libressl and eudev, this logic is > > fallacious and wrong and not the way Gentoo is developed. > >=20 >=20 > Both removals definitely not still being contested and debated. >=20 > > Gentoo does indeed discuss the things that people want, and try to > > determine whether they are useful to users, whether they are a > > placebo, > > and whether they are maintainable or have an adverse effect either > > on > > users or on the effort to maintain a consistent tree. > >=20 > > So circling back around to the start of the thread: > >=20 > > > pkgcheck complains about each new version of dev-lisp/sbcl: > >=20 > > It is the allegation of the QA team that the option is a lie, it > > contains no purpose or value and doesn't contribute to use choice, > > and > > pkgcheck is reporting the QA team's allegation. > >=20 > > If you wish to convince the QA team otherwise, be my guest... but I > > would personally encourage you to come up with a better argument > > than > > "the option makes me feel better about myself, I don't care what you > > have to say, just leave my options alone goshdarnit; I have the > > right=20 > > to > > be stupid". > >=20 > > Because I don't think you're likely to convince anyone like that.=20 > > Sorry. >=20 > Maybe support as much choice as possible, and not act like you know > what=20 > users want better that the users themselves. >=20 Are users like you going to maintain and fix these obscure bugs too? I don't recall seeing you sending in many fixes or patches, yet you seem to be demanding that we go out of our way to accommodate you.