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From: David Seifert <soap@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] special small-files USE flag without effect on dependencies: [ unicode ]
Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2024 12:48:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0c6db095b487c2a3894cfd97fcf0b37bcf99ca3a.camel@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8db6529b478c267afa679a9b91f27cd2@shitposting.expert>

On Fri, 2024-02-09 at 22:56 +0000, stefan11111 wrote:
> On 2024-02-09 21:56, Eli Schwartz wrote:
> > On 2/9/24 4:25 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> > > This is the part where you try to convince me that the things I
> > > want
> > > are stupid. OK. I don't care. I want it off. Leave me alone :)
> > 
> > 
> > As evidenced by the removal of libressl and eudev, this logic is
> > fallacious and wrong and not the way Gentoo is developed.
> > 
> 
> Both removals definitely not still being contested and debated.
> 
> > Gentoo does indeed discuss the things that people want, and try to
> > determine whether they are useful to users, whether they are a
> > placebo,
> > and whether they are maintainable or have an adverse effect either
> > on
> > users or on the effort to maintain a consistent tree.
> > 
> > So circling back around to the start of the thread:
> > 
> > > pkgcheck complains about each new version of dev-lisp/sbcl:
> > 
> > It is the allegation of the QA team that the option is a lie, it
> > contains no purpose or value and doesn't contribute to use choice,
> > and
> > pkgcheck is reporting the QA team's allegation.
> > 
> > If you wish to convince the QA team otherwise, be my guest... but I
> > would personally encourage you to come up with a better argument
> > than
> > "the option makes me feel better about myself, I don't care what you
> > have to say, just leave my options alone goshdarnit; I have the
> > right 
> > to
> > be stupid".
> > 
> > Because I don't think you're likely to convince anyone like that. 
> > Sorry.
> 
> Maybe support as much choice as possible, and not act like you know
> what 
> users want better that the users themselves.
> 

Are users like you going to maintain and fix these obscure bugs too? I
don't recall seeing you sending in many fixes or patches, yet you seem
to be demanding that we go out of our way to accommodate you.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-10 11:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-09 15:23 [gentoo-dev] special small-files USE flag without effect on dependencies: [ unicode ] Andrey Grozin
2024-02-09 15:43 ` Mike Gilbert
2024-02-09 15:54 ` Ionen Wolkens
2024-02-09 16:07   ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 16:57     ` Mike Gilbert
2024-02-09 17:17       ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 18:40         ` Mike Gilbert
2024-02-09 19:09         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-09 19:57           ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 21:04             ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-09 21:25               ` Michael Orlitzky
2024-02-09 21:56                 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-09 22:56                   ` stefan11111
2024-02-10  0:03                     ` Matt Jolly
2024-02-10 11:48                     ` David Seifert [this message]
2024-02-10 17:26                       ` stefan11111
2024-02-11  0:58                         ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-10 11:22                   ` orbea
2024-02-11  0:58                     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-10  0:04               ` Sam James
2024-02-11  0:42                 ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-11  3:46                   ` Sam James
2024-02-11  3:56                     ` Eli Schwartz
2024-02-12  4:54                     ` Andrey Grozin
2024-02-10  0:00             ` Sam James
2024-02-09 23:52 ` Sam James

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