From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3523A1382C5 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:56:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6E21CE087A; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:2001:470:ea4a:1:5054:ff:fec7:86e4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18543E0837 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:56:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (ipservice-092-214-198-247.092.214.pools.vodafone-ip.de [92.214.198.247]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: chithanh) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AB2E4335C06 for ; Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Mailing list moderation and community openness To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <4aab96fa-0edb-6a28-791e-28e2103f2a30@gentoo.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Ch=c3=ad-Thanh_Christopher_Nguy=e1=bb=85n?= Message-ID: <0b40188c-bda8-e355-9ca1-1ab9cecd4615@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2018 00:56:27 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5.0 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4aab96fa-0edb-6a28-791e-28e2103f2a30@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 22ef1e27-dbd6-435c-bb56-7f8b16fe77ee X-Archives-Hash: 5c5b8c5f052b066e2e6719f874d0aa9b Michael Palimaka schrieb: > I see that in bug #650964[1] Council is pushing forward again with > implementing user whitelisting on this mailing list (ie. anyone that is > not "approved" will have their mail rejected). > > Could someone please explain how this doesn't directly contradict the > core tenets of an open and inclusive community? (I do not intend to single out your post, just replying to the thread in general here) I would like to ask people to stay respectful in their disagreement towards the Council and their decision here. You might not agree with the decision, but the Council is an elected body and was given these powers by the developer community which they represent. Also I have no doubt that Council members who voted for -dev moderation are aware of the counter arguments and honestly expect a net positive effect from this. If you dislike mailing list moderation, campaign and/or vote in the next period for candidates who want to reverse this decision. Best regards, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn