From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.1 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_NONE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mxout1.netvision.net.il (mxout1.netvision.net.il [194.90.9.20]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A840A24CBB for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2002 08:00:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from laptop.dan.net ([62.0.84.33]) by mxout1.netvision.net.il (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built Sep 5 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GPB00LN1DL95S@mxout1.netvision.net.il> for gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:00:48 +0200 (IST) Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2002 16:00:35 +0200 From: Dan Armak Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] KDEDIR In-reply-to: <02b2b2741130212FE6@Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com> To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Message-id: <0GPB00LN4DLB5S@mxout1.netvision.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.7] Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <02b2b2741130212FE6@Mail6.mgfairfax.rr.com> Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Developer discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 37763dcd-93b3-44aa-9655-03a0bcc8c0bb X-Archives-Hash: f9c5ddd3c7f5ec17f194ea14722cb0c9 On Wednesday 02 January 2002 15:42, you wrote: > Although I understand (I think) why the use of KDEDIR=/usr, may I offer it > makes it rather hard for those of use who want/need to run multiple > versions of KDE. > > May I offer that the /usr/kde/2 and /usr/kde/3 that you all ready have > the kdelibraries be the actual kdedir as well? Well, this suggestion was raised before but we decded against it. For one thing, you'd still have to juggle paths the way you do now. In any case it was decided that providing support for one version of any app (and multiple kdes) is enough. > One could then make a base > symlink to the active on (as well as qt libraries). that way the > ld.conf.so and path's dont have to be modified everytime, just the link. Are they being modified now? Not as far as I know, just being set in /etc/env.d. The only "dynamic" modification going on is in startkde (PATH) and I may get rid of that as well. The KDEDIR etc. settings and configuration have just come out of a prolonged state of flux; things are still settling down. I am currently running a combined KDE2/3 for the first time and am working out the best way to implement this in ebuilds. I should be able to give you a satisfying answer in a couple of days from now, when I have all the quirks worked out. > > The way it is at the moment, with all kde apps going into /usr/bin, trynig > to run two kdes (and switching back and forth) is rather difficult. Well, one thing I can tell you right now is this: the generic Gentoo KDE setup does not, and will not, include support for mutiple KDEs. If you want to run multiple KDEs yourself, expect the Portage-installed KDE to make trouble. For one thing, since it lives in /usr, it has an unpleasant tendency to get into the beginning of your PATH, before any other KDE. I will try to provide a more satisfcatory solution, but the Gentoo KDE will still come first in my priorities. So if you want to have multiple KDEs on a permanent basis (what for? testing?), you might consider not installing a KDE from portage at all. That way all you KDEs would be on an equal footing, but you'd lose all the nice things we put into the KDE ebuilds. -- Dan Armak Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team Matan, Israel