From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MpOLX-0003UK-D5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:29:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B0B40E085B; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPaqm1.telefonica.net (impaqm1.telefonica.net [213.4.129.21]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53EDCE085B for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from IMPmailhost6.adm.correo ([10.20.102.127]) by IMPaqm1.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id j0F01c00S2kvMAa013V0B7; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:29:00 +0200 Received: from jesgue.homelinux.org ([78.136.66.163]) by IMPmailhost6.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id j3UA1c0083XLmEe1m3UBUo; Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:28:11 +0200 X-TE-authinfo: authemail="i92guboj.terra.es" |auth_email="i92guboj@terra.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitera01" Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:28:58 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Jes=C3=BAs_Guerrero?= To: Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1 In-Reply-To: <200909201725.00070.Arfrever@gentoo.org> References: <200909191848.33225.Arfrever@gentoo.org> <200909200041.32652.cla@gentoo.org> <19e69baf3d2d95babe2abc5f89c4322d@localhost> <200909201725.00070.Arfrever@gentoo.org> Message-ID: <091be2b0c034b3e5d32a7d42caeefe76@localhost> X-Sender: i92guboj@terra.es User-Agent: RoundCube Webmail/0.3-stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 47466570-1d64-492c-a973-97f6d5eaf412 X-Archives-Hash: 7b30aa9293edd6adec1d3020fd68cf09 On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:24:53 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis wrote: > 2009-09-20 16:53:37 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero napisa=C5=82(a): >> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:41:32 +0200, Dawid W=C4=99gli=C5=84ski >> wrote: >> > On Sunday 20 of September 2009 00:32:28 Dale wrote: >> >> > >> >> > ~arch is for testing ebuilds, not the upstream package >> >> >> >> So it would be OK to mark something "stable" even tho portage itsel= f >> >> doesn't work with it? Sorry, this makes no sense to me. I run stable >> >> for the most part and having a package that portage depends on that is >> >> not stable just sounds a little like putting the cart before the >> >> horse. >> >> >> >> See some of the other replies as to why this is a not so good idea. >> >> >> >> Dale >> >> >> >> :-) :-) >> >=20 >> > You mix it up. Portage works with python 3.1. If an user switches to >> > python=20 >> > 3.1 as the main interpreter, it's possible that his own scripts won'= t >> > work.=20 >>=20 >> Yes? >>=20 >> # eselect python set 2 >> # emerge -s foo >> File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 41 >> except PermissionDenied, e: >> ^ >> SyntaxError: invalid syntax >>=20 >>=20 >> Ummm, yes, it works *beautifully*, you see. Nothing else to add. >=20 > I have fixed it today :) . > http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/portage?rev=3D14289&view=3Drev >=20 >> > Marking it stable sometine in november give's some time to ebuilds=20 >> > maintainers to fix their python based apps just like it's done with >> > gcc >> > stabilization. >>=20 >> That's not the usual case. In Gentoo we have a serious policy of not >> marking as stable things until it has passed one month without any >> serious >> bug report about it. >=20 > There wasn't any serious bug report about Python 3.1. > IIRC the only problem was a (already fixed) build failure caused by > non-UTF-8 > characters in header of Berkeley DB. > Stabilization of Python 3.1.1-r1 is planned over 1 month after its > addition to > the tree and about 3 months after addition of 3.1 slot to the tree. That sounds better. :) All users want is something that works out of the box. As long as that's true I don't have a problem with the change. I myself live in ~arch for m= y desktop machine, I am just concerned about the average user. --=20 Jes=C3=BAs Guerrero