Re: [gentoo-dev] Stabilization of Python 3.1

["Jesús Guerrero" <i92guboj@terra.es>]

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 17:24:53 +0200, Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
<Arfrever@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 2009-09-20 16:53:37 Jesús Guerrero napisał(a):
>> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:41:32 +0200, Dawid Węgliński <cla@gentoo.org>
>> wrote:
>> > On Sunday 20 of September 2009 00:32:28 Dale wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > ~arch is for testing ebuilds, not the upstream package
>> >>
>> >> So it would be OK to mark something "stable" even tho portage itself
>> >> doesn't work with it?  Sorry, this makes no sense to me.  I run
stable
>> >> for the most part and having a package that portage depends on that
is
>> >> not stable just sounds a little like putting the cart before the
>> >> horse.
>> >>
>> >> See some of the other replies as to why this is a not so good idea.
>> >>
>> >> Dale
>> >>
>> >> :-)  :-)
>> > 
>> > You mix it up. Portage works with python 3.1. If an user switches to
>> > python 
>> > 3.1 as the main interpreter, it's possible that his own scripts won't
>> > work. 
>> 
>> Yes?
>> 
>> # eselect python set 2
>> # emerge -s foo
>>   File "/usr/bin/emerge", line 41
>>     except PermissionDenied, e:
>>                            ^
>> SyntaxError: invalid syntax
>> 
>> 
>> Ummm, yes, it works *beautifully*, you see. Nothing else to add.
> 
> I have fixed it today :) .
> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/portage?rev=14289&view=rev
> 
>> > Marking it stable sometine in november give's some time to ebuilds 
>> > maintainers to fix their python based apps just like it's done with
>> > gcc
>> > stabilization.
>> 
>> That's not the usual case. In Gentoo we have a serious policy of not
>> marking as stable things until it has passed one month without any
>> serious
>> bug report about it.
> 
> There wasn't any serious bug report about Python 3.1.
> IIRC the only problem was a (already fixed) build failure caused by
> non-UTF-8
> characters in header of Berkeley DB.
> Stabilization of Python 3.1.1-r1 is planned over 1 month after its
> addition to
> the tree and about 3 months after addition of 3.1 slot to the tree.

That sounds better. :)

All users want is something that works out of the box. As long as that's
true I don't have a problem with the change. I myself live in ~arch for my
desktop machine, I am just concerned about the average user.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero