From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5117 invoked by uid 1002); 15 Jul 2003 10:32:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 29236 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2003 10:32:06 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Stuart Herbert" To: "'Paul de Vrieze'" , Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:31:36 +0100 Keywords: Of Interest, Unread Email Organization: Generic NQS Project Message-ID: <03bc01c34abc$47d19350$c200a8c0@Churchill> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 In-Reply-To: <200307151214.49105.pauldv@gentoo.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo part II. X-Archives-Salt: 8db286dc-8138-41c6-b26b-65c8d02e6d08 X-Archives-Hash: 8af43e6fa9087a24168117b8ffa8caa0 > The main issue with the current approach is that proposals=20 > are forgotten.=20 Mmm ... are they really forgotten, or is it more a case that they fade = away because the work to implement them just doesn't get done? If ideas = don't gather enthusiasm or momentum, then perhaps it is more healthy for them = to die, than to be half-heartedly implemented by someone working to a = 'todo' list drawn up by others? > The case with a management decision is not so much a problem as=20 > management also must get the developers along. If it doesn't=20 > people walk away and fork Project forks are typically political, not just technical. They're = about power and control. Managers should be there to make it *easier* for developers to do development. Managers don't do the work - it's the developers that do. = Any agenda for a project should be defined by leaders. Management and leadership are very different roles! When management insist that only *they* can be the leaders, that's when developers start to vote with = their feet. =20 Best regards, Stu -- -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list