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From: "Stuart Herbert" <stuart@myrddraal.demon.co.uk>
To: "'Paul de Vrieze'" <pauldv@gentoo.org>, <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo part II.
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:31:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03bc01c34abc$47d19350$c200a8c0@Churchill> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200307151214.49105.pauldv@gentoo.org>

> The main issue with the current approach is that proposals 
> are forgotten. 

Mmm ... are they really forgotten, or is it more a case that they fade away
because the work to implement them just doesn't get done?  If ideas don't
gather enthusiasm or momentum, then perhaps it is more healthy for them to
die, than to be half-heartedly implemented by someone working to a 'todo'
list drawn up by others?

> The case with a management decision is not so much a problem as 
> management also must get the developers along. If it doesn't 
> people walk away and fork

Project forks are typically political, not just technical.  They're about
power and control.

Managers should be there to make it *easier* for developers to do
development.  Managers don't do the work - it's the developers that do.  Any
agenda for a project should be defined by leaders.  Management and
leadership are very different roles!  When management insist that only
*they* can be the leaders, that's when developers start to vote with their
feet.
 
Best regards,
Stu
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-07-15  1:46 [gentoo-dev] Gentoo part II John Davis
2003-07-15  3:02 ` splite
2003-07-15  3:08   ` John Davis
2003-07-15  4:15     ` splite
2003-07-15  4:55       ` Kumba
2003-07-15  5:29         ` splite
2003-07-15  9:06           ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 10:05             ` Stroller
2003-07-15 10:37             ` splite
2003-07-15 10:50               ` Daniel Jaeggi
2003-07-15 18:04                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-07-15 18:17                   ` John Davis
2003-07-15 18:28                     ` Jon Portnoy
2003-07-15 18:37                       ` Todd Berman
2003-07-15 19:13                         ` John Davis
2003-07-15 19:12                       ` John Davis
2003-07-15 11:40               ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 15:13                 ` oford
2003-07-15 17:32                   ` John Davis
2003-07-15 18:12                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-07-15 13:20       ` cal
2003-03-17 13:42         ` Patrick Lauer
2003-07-15 13:47         ` John Davis
2003-07-15  3:40   ` Brad Cowan
2003-07-15  4:36     ` Ralph F. De Witt
2003-07-15  5:01       ` Brad Cowan
2003-07-15  6:31         ` splite
2003-07-15  4:50     ` splite
2003-07-15  4:38   ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-07-15 10:04     ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15  5:53 ` William McArthur
2003-07-15  6:16 ` Brandon Low
2003-07-15  7:21   ` Ralph F. De Witt
2003-07-15 10:14     ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 10:31       ` Stuart Herbert [this message]
2003-07-15 14:03       ` Grant Goodyear
2003-07-15  8:56   ` Brad Laue
2003-07-15  7:01 ` [gentoo-dev] " Martin Gramatke
2003-07-15 10:28   ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 10:19 ` [gentoo-dev] " Stuart Herbert
2003-07-15 11:19   ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 11:39     ` Stuart Herbert
2003-07-15 12:01       ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 12:23       ` Spider
2003-07-15 18:08       ` Jon Portnoy
2003-07-15 20:27         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-07-15 11:51 ` Spider
2003-07-16  1:44 ` Brett I. Holcomb
2003-07-16  4:25   ` Owen Gunden

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